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To: JonPreston
"Erasing one’s social presence; with approval by doctrinaire conservatives libertarians!"

The Radicalism of Russell Kirk

'....libertarians are “utilitarian materialists,” says Russell Kirk, whereas traditionalists believe in a “transcendent moral order.” Libertarians are concerned principally with questions of free versus unfree, wealth versus poverty. For traditionalists, the question of right versus wrong trumps all. Either government stands on the side of Good against Evil, or else it declares itself neutral, and is therefore complicit with Evil. Those are our options.'

17 posted on 05/06/2019 3:10:16 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Pelham; JonPreston

Modern so-called libertarians are limousine libertines.

They call for open borders without first absolutely requiring the complete dismantling of the welfare state.

That is just one of their hypocrisies.


19 posted on 05/06/2019 3:13:55 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Pelham
For traditionalists, the question of right versus wrong trumps all. Either government stands on the side of Good against Evil, or else it declares itself neutral, and is therefore complicit with Evil. Those are our options.

And conveniently for the traditionalists they're assuming they'll be the ones determining right and wrong.

48 posted on 05/06/2019 5:34:08 PM PDT by semimojo
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