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Patrick Buchanan: Tariffs -- The Taxes That Made America Great
Cnsnews.com ^ | May 14, 2019 | 5:02 AM EDT | By Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 05/14/2019 2:20:31 PM PDT by cba123

As his limo carried him to work at the White House Monday, Larry Kudlow could not have been pleased with the headline in The Washington Post: "Kudlow Contradicts Trump on Tariffs."

The story began: "National Economic Council Director Lawrence Kudlow acknowledged Sunday that American consumers end up paying for the administration's tariffs on Chinese imports, contradicting President Trump's repeated inaccurate claim that the Chinese foot the bill."

A free trade evangelical, Kudlow had conceded on Fox News that consumers pay the tariffs on products made abroad that they purchase here in the U.S. Yet that is by no means the whole story.

A tariff may be described as a sales or consumption tax the consumer pays, but tariffs are also a discretionary and an optional tax.

If you choose not to purchase Chinese goods and instead buy comparable goods made in other nations or the USA, then you do not pay the tariff.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: america; boycott; boycotts; buchanan; china; kudlow; larrykudlow; patbuchanan; patrickbuchanan; patrickjbuchanan; pitchforkpat; sanctions; tariff; tariffs; trade
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To: cba123

In a few months, companies that start to lose money in China will start moving to other countries. They win, the country thy move to wins, the consumer wins, Trump wins. The only loser is China.


21 posted on 05/14/2019 2:58:14 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Love no longer trumps hate with liberals. Open hatred is now the new virtue signalling.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Pat isn’t and never really was


22 posted on 05/14/2019 2:58:20 PM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

yep.....

China can still sell the rest of the world


23 posted on 05/14/2019 3:01:11 PM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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To: MplsSteve

Richard Nixon was also impressive in his grasp of world politics, but few read his books.

Howie Carr had Buchanan on as a guest. He makes a better case than Trump’s advisor, Kudlow. Interesting that Howie should have Rudy Giuliani on, following Pat.


24 posted on 05/14/2019 3:07:36 PM PDT by Does so (A mysterious nuclear explosion would have the fingerprints of Uranium One!)
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To: dragnet2
You admit voting for Kemp? Ya know that’s the same assh*le who repeatedly came out against CA prop 187.

He did that in 1994. In 1988, who would YOU have voted for? I voted for the most pro-life candidate whose philosophy came closest to Reagan at the time and could be the Dem in the general.

Your choices are Beush the Elder, Bob Dole, Pat Robertson, and Jack Kemp (Haig, Laxalt and DuPont washed out early, otherwise I would have voted for Laxalt)
25 posted on 05/14/2019 3:12:27 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I was behind from behind enemy lines watching the Kemp bash 187, as these frauds like Kemp took the crown jewel of the U.S. and destroyed it, as the invasion spread from coast to coast. Millions of illegals were totally emboldened by posers like Trump. Spit*


26 posted on 05/14/2019 3:17:03 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Millions of illegals were totally emboldened by posers like KEMP.


27 posted on 05/14/2019 3:17:43 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Moonman62

I don’t I think my source that China was absorbing the tariffs was Trump tweets.

But it doesn’t really matter. The tariffs make it easier for US companies to compete. They make it more profitable to start competitors against Chinese products in the US. They will eventually bring US jobs and manufacturing back, especially in products where labor is not that big of a component. (The wage differential dwarfs a 25% tariff, so the more labor component, the more likely the product manufacturing is to stay in China).

Our forefathers viewed tariffs as a tax on foreigners wanting to sell into our market. It’s really semantics on whether China pays or the US pays. And who pays is really only meaningful in the short run. In the long run the tariffs create a home court advantage for the US.


28 posted on 05/14/2019 3:18:05 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Moonman62

I don’t I think my source that China was absorbing the tariffs was Trump tweets.

But it doesn’t really matter. The tariffs make it easier for US companies to compete. They make it more profitable to start competitors against Chinese products in the US. They will eventually bring US jobs and manufacturing back, especially in products where labor is not that big of a component. (The wage differential dwarfs a 25% tariff, so the more labor component, the more likely the product manufacturing is to stay in China).

Our forefathers viewed tariffs as a tax on foreigners wanting to sell into our market. It’s really semantics on whether China pays or the US pays. And who pays is really only meaningful in the short run. In the long run the tariffs create a home court advantage for the US.


29 posted on 05/14/2019 3:18:05 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Moonman62
I do have a source for the Founder's view of Tariffs.

Found Fathers Original Tax Plan

30 posted on 05/14/2019 3:20:09 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
So far China has paid most of the bill for the tariffs.

The taxes are paid by the importing company in America and the bill is then passed on to the American that buys the product. Kudlow is right and Trump is either confused or lying.

31 posted on 05/14/2019 3:20:15 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: dragnet2

OK, I get it. Now, in 1988, who do you vote for? Prop 187 hasn’t even been conceived yet.


32 posted on 05/14/2019 3:22:06 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Poison Pill

And over the long run, American produced goods that don’t have to pay the tax will have an advantage over the imported goods. At which point nobody is paying the tariff and Americans are employed, which is the point.


33 posted on 05/14/2019 3:24:03 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Poison Pill
Kudlow is right and Trump is either confused or lying.

Not necessarily. It could be a shorthand for "The Chinese lower the prices" in order to continue moving product, offsetting the tariff, and keeping the infrastructure in Red China, instead of letting it go to Vietnam, India or Malaysia.
34 posted on 05/14/2019 3:24:04 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: cba123
If the idea is to force other countries to remove their tariffs on American made products, and then lift these tariffs, I'm for it.

But anyone who thinks we can build tariff barrier around America, and get rich by selling stuff back and forth to ourselves at ever increasing prices, needs a checkup from the neck up.

America's greatest years of prosperity were the years that we were making things that the rest of the world wanted to buy.

And the worst products we ever made came from companies that did not have to worry about overseas competition.

35 posted on 05/14/2019 3:25:44 PM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (I'm an unreconstructed Free Trader and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cba123

Amen!

The Neocon globalists are anti-protectionists.


36 posted on 05/14/2019 3:45:50 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: bert

Pat loves this country, more than can be said for Bush League Republicans who want to turn it into North Mexico.


37 posted on 05/14/2019 3:46:11 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Agreed.

The Trotskyists that after WWII usurped the RNC - turning the GOP [Grand Old Party] into the COP [Controlled Opposition Party] - removed the tariff plank from the party platform.

They hated Goldwater, Reagan, Buchanan, and Trump. They hate conservatives and nationalists.

They hate Americans.


38 posted on 05/14/2019 3:50:41 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
"America's greatest years of prosperity were the years that we were making things that the rest of the world wanted to buy."

Our greatest prosperity years were when Europe was mostly rubble, England was broke and fading fast, all of Asia was in ruins, and we were the only ones making things the rest of the world could either buy from us or do without.

Our greatest period of prosperity prior to that was during the era when tariffs were the primary source of revenue for the Federal government and individuals could readily find decent jobs that allowed them to purchase what other Americans made.

The Free Traitor BS is like the Globull Warming crowd when it comes to an extremely distorted, selective, look at history.

Have a lovely day

39 posted on 05/14/2019 3:57:46 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: cba123

Knew this was coming sometime when at a Department Store two displays of Blue Jeans were side by side. One ‘Made in the USA’ price $39.99 the other ‘Made in Mexico’ $19.99. The $19.99 display was barren because consumers didn’t care where they were made as long as they could get a lower price. Damn the consequences. (PS There was a Decorated Truck bound for a Democrat Campaign Rally in the parking lot. Ironic, right?)


40 posted on 05/14/2019 3:58:39 PM PDT by griswold3
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