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To: Cronos

Britain ceased being an imperial state a long time ago, but it is better to be a sovereign, independent minor power than a mere province in a mighty empire. Imperial subjects, even those who live in the ‘core’ state, rarely have much power over their own governments and Disraeli-style talk of dazzling imperial grandure and power on the world stage is a way of distracting the ordinary people from this fact.


41 posted on 05/22/2019 2:15:15 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Britain ceased being an imperial state in reality but in mentality it remained an imperial state. That was apparent also in the negotiations.

As to being a sovereign minor power - yes, that’s fine, but it would mean giving up the earliest “colonies” like Scotland and maybe even Wales (though I doubt the latter)

You are correct in a way about how different parts of the country fared under the British Empire, but it is no doubt that hte UK as a whole turned from a gin-soaked, second rate, poor country in the early 1600s into a powerful super-state by 1800


42 posted on 05/22/2019 3:13:25 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama hated Assad as he wasn't a Muslim but an Alawite)
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