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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 16 June 2019
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 16 June 2019 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 06/16/2019 4:26:57 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows

June 16th, 2019

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Secretary of State Mike Pompeo; Delusional democrat presidential candidate Sen. Burnie Sanders, I-Vt. & NOPE*; Left-wing activist and so-called comedian Jon Stewart. The panel will be Whine Williams, co-host of “The Five”; Rich Lowry of National Never Trump Review; Donna Brazile Nut, former Delusional democrat National Committee interim chairwoman and cover-upper of Seth Rich’s murder by the Deep State; and radio host Guy Benson of

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Presidential candidate Mayor Pete Buttigieg, D(emented)-South Bend, Ind. & NOPE*; Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La. The panel will be syndicated columnist George “I am a Sissy” Will, Helene Cooper of The New York Slimes; Mark Leibovich of The New York Slimes Magazine and Danielle Pletka of the American Enterprise Institute.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Buttigieg, Gay NOPE*; Big Mike Pompeo; Rep. Adam Schitt, pop-eyed freak and D(eranged)-Calif.; Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark. The panel will be Amy Walter of The Cooked-up Political Report, CBS News political commissar Leslie Sanchez and Deranged democratic race stratergist Antjuan Seawright.

THIS WEEK (ABC): President Donald Trump--more from Georgie “Little Wise Guy” Steppenallofuses’ interview. Horse-toothed Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D(espicable)-N.Y. The panel will be Rick Klein, ABC News Politburo chief; former Gov. Chris Christie, R-N.J.; Despicable democrat strategist Stefanie Brown James, co-founder of Collective (Farm) PAC; and Julie Pace, Arch-propagandist of The Associated Pressitudes.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Buttigieg, Gay & NOPE*; former Rep. Beta O’Rourke, D(umbass)-Texas, presidential candidate & NOPE*. The panel will be CNN Never Trumper Amanda Carpenter, former democrat Dumbass governor of Michigan Jennifer Granholm, also Rick Santorum and former Hillary spokesbeing and Liar Karen Finney.

SUNDAY MORNING FUTURES (FNC): Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas; Peter Navarro, assistant to the president for trade and manufacturing policy; Rep. Matt Cartwright, D(isoriented)-Pa.; Sen. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn.; Gordon Chang, Asia analyst and author of “The Coming Collapse Of China” and “Losing South Korea." Former US Air Force Airman Charles Payne hosts.

*NOPE = “Never Obtain the Presidency, Ever”

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As always, soliciting FReeper comments, observations, and opinions on the shows.
1 posted on 06/16/2019 4:26:57 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: acapesket; A.Hun; aligncare; altura; bagster; Bernard; bray; BreezyDog; Calpublican; cajungirl; ...
This is the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread Ping List! If you want to be on it, reply to this post or FReepmail me (in case I miss it). If you want to be taken off, simply send me a FReepmail.

Happy Fathers Day!

2 posted on 06/16/2019 4:28:56 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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C-SPAN Radio, available on the net also, click here, broadcasts all five Sunday talk shows starting at 12:00 noon Eastern, as follows:

12:00 PM - 1:00 PM NBC's "Meet the Press"

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM ABC's "This Week"

2:00 PM - 3:00 PM "Fox News Sunday"

3:00 PM - 4:30 PM CNN's "State of the Union"

4:30 PM - 5:00 PM CBS's "Face The Nation"

Listen at the link above WHILE you FReep! Also, Sharyl Attkinson’s Full Measure: Watch live at 9:30 EST.

3 posted on 06/16/2019 4:29:24 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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Here are the email addresses or web pages--and now Twitter pages--for commenting to the weekend talk shows:

Meet the Press Meet the Press mailbox (web page for comments) @MeetThePress @ChuckTodd

Face the Nation @FaceTheNation

Fox News Sunday @foxnewssunday

ABC This Week @ThisWeekABC @GStephanopoulos

CNN State of the Union CNN State of the Union (web page for comments) @CNNSotu @JakeTapper

4 posted on 06/16/2019 4:29:51 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: All; bray

“The Sunday Morning Bray”, by Bray!

But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. Mark 10:6

This week the entire DNC Establishmedia went ape over the President saying he would listen to foreign operatives willing to give dirt on a rival candidate. By the outrage you would have thought he said he would have the FBI dig up or make up dirt on a candidate like Barak did, no they were outraged he would answer the phone and listen. This has only been going on since the dawning of politics but now ABDNC has drawn the line and we now have another impeachable offense.

Imagine if the same people who have their hair on fire about foreign opposition research were just as concerned with voter fraud affecting the election. The Clinton machine is famous for dirty tricks and Opo research and just as famous for voter fraud. The same is true for the entire DNC machine as it has well published evidence and convictions of vote fraud yet we get no concern whatsoever from these guardians of America’s elections.

At what point is true and fair elections more important than the Communist cult? This country is at a point where there are more than enough noncitizens in a position to change an election with such permissive election laws there is no possible way to control this potential wave of fraud and nobody can do anything about it for fear of being called a racist or homophobe.

True the Vote was an investigatory group who was looking into voter fraud around the country and estimated there was around a 2-4% fraud factor in favor of the Communist Party. With the influx of new arrivals across the southern border they may be able to increase this number to 5% plus which will have a devastating effect on future elections. Unfortunately, for the followers of the cult the ends justify the means so they can be outraged at someone would listen to outside information while being fine with outside voters voting in the same election.

If your goal is to fundamentally make this a Soviet country you must manipulate the people into doing what is not in their best interest. This means the agreeing to losing their jobs and livelihood for an altruistic reason outside of a better financial situation. This is how the atheistic religion came into being by the DNC through earth worship back in the Spotted Owl crisis. Once you have people more concerned with a creature than their own personal wellbeing then you can manipulate them into more and deeper personal destruction.

They then began the war on the automobile and oil driven forms of transportation and replaced them with Choo Choo trains claiming one was good for the planet and one was bad. They take a 21st century problem and solve it with 19th century solutions. This was followed by the war on nuclear power with movie after movie showing the destruction of the planet by power plants which had only minor incidents which were exaggerated to have its desired effect of closing down this vital energy source.

Now they have the nuclear bomb of mass manipulation with Global Warming, or as they were forced to modify to Climate Change or some call weather. They have their High Priests in Academia declare something is destroying the earth and their followers line up to flagellate themselves in the name of saving their eart. They do not need any proof or explanation other than an animated film by some really smart people and they are ready to destroy their own lives as well as yours in the name of earth worship.

These people are fundamental zealots who make fundamental Christians look meek. They take to the streets with their World Ends Tomorrow signs and make fun of Christians who believe in Revelation. Both are faith based although one was invented by members of the DNC and Enron while the other is based on the Bible and 3000 years of prophesy.

Just a review of where GW began. Al Gore had been partners with Enron and had developed an investment scheme of Acid offsets for the coal powered energy plants throughout the Midwest. They had some scientists’ claim there was something called Acid Rain occurring and killing the trees and needed to be stopped.

Enron had purchased hundreds of millions of Natural Gas futures and believed they could put the coal plants out of business with their offset scheme and nearly did until other scientists proved Acid Rain a fraud and was actually bacteria killing the trees and the bottom fell out of the Nat Gas futures market destroying Enron.

Al Gore and Ken Lay then found a small research in a similar field in England who was investigating the connection between CO2 and the temperature of the earth so along comes Global Warming and the offset riches Gore was enjoying with Acid Rain. He made his movie and all of the really smart/Socialists joined in knowing they could manipulate the earth worshipers and were right.

Now these followers will march like sheep to the slaughter if you tell them it will protect the earth or stop any sinners who do not kneel at the church of Al Gore. This is why you can be outraged Donald Trump would dare talk to foreign agents who could affect their precious elections while you are for leaving the vote exposed to massive vote fraud.

If the DNC was in the slightest consistent with their outrage and Russia then they would say that the possibility of one fraudulent vote was too many. They would be equally outraged there could be unregistered voters affecting elections around the country and especially in states like IL, NY, FL and CA but you will hear crickets from those same outraged people. No, they have their selective outrage down to microscopic divisions.

This week’s outrage is no different than last week’s and will be no different than next. It is all based on their cult following whatever is told them and they will dutifully march to that drum no matter how ridiculous or hypocritical the beat. Just as they are hysterical about Trump saying he would look at opposition research even though Hillary paid for foreign Opo research she is even more hysterical Trump would do what she did and needs to be impeached for it. The church of the DNC does not see any conflict in her doxology.

According to the DNC anything the Repubs do is criminal and needs prosecuting and anything the Dems do is justified. This is how you can be incensed that some Russians may have done something to affect our election while you are fine with somewhere in the neighborhood of ten million illegal voters did change it. The ends justify the means and their ends are to stop earth’s sinners from hurting their great and powerful god; Ghia Ackbar! This is what happens when you worship the creation rather than the creator and what is happening to America today.

Pray America wakes

Note: The above opinion is not necessarily my own, but FReeper Bray’s. If you wish to discuss this, please ping Bray.

5 posted on 06/16/2019 4:30:26 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Morning AB, All. As always, thank you AB for doing this thread so reliably and keeping the peace with gentle thread policing. Thank you Bray for weekly written wisdom, Thank you Rodguy for fishing tales and political perspectives from all angles, Thank all yon contributors for excellent commentary to flesh it all out.

Below are the words from my daily political diary. It is quite long so scroll on by if not interested. But do stay around and add your commentary and point of view to the thread.

Finally, Happy Father’s Day to all the wonderful Dads out there. I had a wonderful father. Wish he was still here.



I haven’t been sleeping nights with worries about single-use plastic bags. God forbid the Delaware legislature should deal with the state’s dishonest judicial system. Or perhaps make efforts to save the states few electoral votes currently under attack by the Democrats. Or hey, maybe work on legalizing all the illegals in the state.


The gubmint makes our lives miserable.

The single-use plastic bags are outlawed based on square footage of the retail site.

The gubmint. Must have the gubmint. Cannot survive without the gubmint. God save the almighty gubmint.


As I type a bulletin has come upon the television informing of a helicopter that crashed into a building. Governor Cuomo has already been on tv stating that no one was injured. There has been a 2 alarm fire in the same building that the helicopter crashed. As of this writing it’s been reported that there has been one death.



A helicopter crashed in midtown Manhattan on Monday afternoon. The crash occurred near West 51st Street and Seventh Avenue, on the north end of Times Square. A spokeswoman for the New York Police Department told CNBC the number of possible injuries is unknown.



Well yes as I sat down and tuned in to watch the damn dumbest action taken by a political party, the helicopter hit a building in New York. Because of this I saw nothing of the wonderful John Dean sit in front of congress and berate my president.

Not that he isn’t a convicted fellow charged with lying before congress.

The Dems. have no pride.



I chanced to catch a little bit of former VP Joe Biden’s speech yesterday in Iowa. The most notable sound bite is that bit about President Trump being an “existential threat”.

What is it with these people? Why can’t they campaign on something else besides hating Trump? It gets old and I strongly suspect that it will come back to haunt them in 2020.

But the most absurd and nonsensical statement by Biden was: “Forget ‘Let’s make America great again. Let’s make America America again.”

Does Biden think this is some kind of clever wording? Does he not want America to be great? Is he saying that instead of making America great, let’s leave it like it is? Meaning what? America’s not so great?

He came out of the woodwork and to add to the serendipity, Trump was also in Iowa and dishing out insults to Biden way more clever than Biden’s Trump-Derangement-Syndrome.

Biden….my state’s former senator.

A loser. Nothing’s changed there.


All I know about the Dominican Republic is that it’s somewhere near Haiti. Like many central American countries, it has a wonderful clime and warm Caribbean waters.

Now, all of a sudden and for no apparent reason, Americans vacationing there are dying. Healthy relatively young Americans suddenly dropping dead of what would appear to be natural causes.


here Six American tourists have mysteriously died in recent months at resorts in the Dominican Republic. The FBI is helping local authorities investigate these deaths.

Robert Wallace traveled the world with his wife and friends say he worked hard and played even harder. But his niece said he fell ill almost immediately after drinking a scotch from the minibar at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino and was dead just three days later in April.

David Harrison of Maryland died at the same resort last year. He and his wife had taken their 12-year-old son to the Dominican Republic to celebrate their wedding anniversary. The Hard Rock Hotel & Casino said it's confident that all operational protocols were followed.

Miranda Schaup-Werner and Yvette Monique Sport died at the Bahia Principe resort. Their death certificates list the cause of death for both as heart attacks. But Felecia Nieves, Sport's sister, questions that.


Adding to the sudden and odd, former Boston Red Sox baseball player ,David Ortiz was shot in the Dominican Republic. Details on this are few as of this writing, save he is back in Boston and safely under hospital care. -------------------------------------


Political cartoon of week



It’s been somewhat of a slow news day today but there are a few things from yesterday worth additional commentary. Also, some things on Wednesday worth a small mention…

First, there’s the infamous Quinnipiac poll that has President Trump being defeated by many of the current Democratic contenders for presidential nomination. Supposedly Trump will be landslided by Biden, Sanders, Elizabeth Warren with Buttigieg, Kamala Harris, or Corey Booker coming up the rear.

Come on. Anybody believes that I got a bridge to sell, cheap. Some minor imperfections but the price is good. Rush says this is all a setup to give the Democrats a reason to “investigate” if those poll numbers don’t hold after the 2020 election.


Of course I did not mention that, heh, Joe Biden says he’s going to cure cancer.

I wouldn’t vote for Biden just for his shameless hubris.


I’ve been hearing how upset the Dems are about how that helicopter crash blacked out the magnificent testimony of John Dean. I remember this so well because I told my niece about Dean’s scheduled testimony…”WATERGATE!” I shouted. “ Why can’t they leave Trump alone?” My niece then told me she would sit down and listen to Dean as she was home at that time. I was a bit excited that I piqued her interest. Then the helicopter crash and there was no coverage of the wonderful and honest John Dean.


So the administration is claiming executive privilege over the contentious issue of a citizenship question supposed to be on the 2020 census. The Supreme court is supposed to rule on this matter quickly.

If it isn’t established that the census participant is or is not a citizen of the U.S. what’s to stop everyone in Nigeria, France and/or Norway to submit a census?

The Dems do not want anyone to know how many illegals are in the country because…well it might make us mad.


Finally, heh, Bernie Sanders gave a speech on what he called “democratic socialism” yesterday. He said that most of us are living paycheck to paycheck and are only a sickness or accident away from economic disaster.

I think this is true but I must ask wise Bernie how this is different from the past 50 years. Average people tend to live paycheck to paycheck, it’s no crime. If we didn’t need our next paycheck then why work? And yes, a big sickness or surprising accident would set most of us back financially.

But this is America. We live with it. We have social agencies to help us deal with it. We have family. We use our wonderful heads in this free country and we survive.

Somebody tell me what is Bernie’s point?


It’s time for the weekly ….


I am a widow who lives by herself. Like many women, I had a wonderful husband who did a lot of the things that I must now do. One job husband had was changing the furnace filter. I know this but didn’t think of it until one day the furnace stopped working. The filter was clogged after five years of pet hair.

So I decided that it was time for me to tackle those somewhat small jobs that were driving me nuts.

In one week I fixed the toilet seat, cleaned and updated the dishwasher, and I put the wheel back on the trash cart.

The toilet seat kept slipping off, most times when I was sitting upon. This, as you may imagine, was very annoying. I kept pushing down on the “tab” things that affixed the seat to the toilet but it wouldn’t flatten. Finally I took the thing off and sat down to study the manner. It was then that I noticed a little arrow instructing me to “turn” the seat tab to properly affix. Boom, it worked and I can do my business without fear of fall.


Mark Levin is one of my favorite pundits but I have to rant. DOES THAT MAN SPEND ANY MINUTE OF THE DAY NOT HAWKING HIS DAMN BOOK?

Understand I’ve read quite a few of Mark’s books but dag, if I read the things do I have to listen to his endless promotions as well?


This past Sunday was Pentecost and I submit that the Holy Ghost is my favorite of the blessed trinity. I look upon the Holy Ghost as a drop of God placed in all of us. I know God is God and He can do anything. But to have God in us at all times is God’s gift to us. At least as I see it.



Seems like little skirmishes like this are happening frequently around Iran.

Iran, it would seem, is mad. They don’t like that President Trump stopped sending them money like Obama did.


HERE The attacks appeared to use relatively sophisticated weapons, according to early assessments, and came within roughly 45 minutes of each other in the Gulf of Oman, where four tankers were attacked last month in an incident the U.S. blamed on Iran, which Tehran denied. The U.S. military has built up its military presence in the Persian Gulf in response to what American officials said were threats from Iran, sending an aircraft carrier, the USS Abraham Lincoln, and its strike group to the region.


This looks like irritation more than anything. Iran, is the suspicion, is trying to start a flare up with Trump. Then Iran can begin investigating Trump for collusion.



About monopolies….

I’ve been hearing about Google, Facebook, Twitter….et al….being investigated for being a monopoly.

And I, few people know, spent the first fifteen years of her employment life dealing with the biggest monopoly….ever.

First, let’s quickly go over just what is a monopoly and why the gubmint considers that a bad thing. Google is probably as close to a monopoly around but the company didn’t plan it that way. A new technology came upon and Google was the first, biggest and most aggressive on the scene.

Sort of how it happened to AT&T.

Back in that era, it was AT&T that began and built telephonic communication across the fruited plains. AT&T, when they hired me, consisted of three sub-entities. Western Electric, where I worked, was the monopolist manufacturing arm for such as wires and cables. Bell Labs was the arm of the company that improved things as needed or implemented new procedures. The local phone company, in my case the Chesapeake and Potomac phone company, was in charge of such as signing up customers and billing them.

At the time I was hired at Western Electric (WE), Ronald Reagan had just been elected and on my first day on the job I heard about the monopoly breaking up under Reagan and for the next fifteen years every aspect of my life was affected by this monopoly issue.

The reason AT&T was a monopoly and was allowed to remain so for many years is that it was AT&T that put up all the phone poles across the country, that manufactured the wires that were connected by the poles, that made the curly cords that connected home phones to those overhead wires. AT&T was given much leeway in that you couldn’t have “Joe Blow’s Pole and Wire” company install poles and wires in Indiana, Pennsylvania and California. Or “Mary Jane’s telephone pole company with attached wires” setting up in New York, Florida and the east coast. In order to get America connected effectively from coast to coast, it became a protected monopoly. Indeed WE manufactured the ocean cable that connected America to the rest of the world. You couldn’t have every Mom and Pop making wires that work here, not there. Or putting up poles in backyards or burying cable in corner ponds.

AT&T needed freedom from competition to get the country connected.

But at the very day I was hired by WE I was on notice that AT&T, WE’s parent company please understand, was going to lose its monopoly status and Ronald Reagan was expected to do it.

So monopolies are not necessarily bad things. AT&T connected the country.

After being on the job at WE maybe five, six years, indeed the monopoly was broken up. President Reagan did the deed and, heh, it needed to be done.

Look at America now! We all have cell phones and communication comes from cell towers, not wires stringing phone poles across the fruited plains. There are curly cords still around but not many.

AT&T was a monopoly that served a purpose but had it not been broken up we’d no doubt still be tied to landlines. Although, heh, can’t keep AT&T down. The company is still very much involved in cell phones and such and are, one might argue, the perfect company for same.

WE in Baltimore finally shut down completely when I’d been employed there for fifteen years. We stayed in business making wires and such for over five years pass the official dismantling of the monopoly because people still needed cords and such as technology transitioned America to a more modern form of mass communication involving cell phones and towers.

This situation is in no way similar to the Google, social media sites that have congress all atwitter. Indeed Google does hold a huge share of the market in terms of queries that allow advertising and links that companies seek.

And yes, Google, and Facebook especially, do tend to have a political bent. And I suppose, as the argument goes, they should be impartial.

I don’t know if Google should be mandated to not take political stances. But Lord do we need the gubmint to tell us when to wipe our butts?

Competition will take care of social media sites that displease their customer base. Conservatives will avoid liberal sites and liberals will avoid conservative sites. New mass social media sites will rise up to fill the void.

I say leave it alone. The country will grow and thrive without Google. Unlike AT&T, which undertook the task of hooking up the country, Google got started and there was a vacuum ready to be filled.

I shall decide for myself which social media sites to use. For unlike AT&T I would have no choice to switch phone companies or stop using the wires made by Western Electric.

If Google and Facebook block out or insult enough customers, another one will come right along.

We don’t need the gubmint involved in this.



First, let us establish that soccer is not an American sport. Americans play football, where the contenders beat up on each other, knock them down, sometimes punch out a tooth or two. The rest of the world likes soccer and so do a few Americans.

Thus I am surprised that the female American soccer team, playing for the world cup in the week just passed, was so doggone good. I’d think any other country in the world could beat an American team in that, well they have a culture more attune to soccer.

So the American female team beats a team from Thailand with a score of 13-0.

America got 13 points and the Thailand team got…well, zero.

The big flap is about the American team and what they call lack of good sports manners.

Indeed it is not considered good manners to over-do the winning. Did the American team really need to keep scoring goals after, say, 8 or 9 points?

The concept is that it’s a bit cruel to over-do it.

To add to what is considered American bad manners, the American females carried on like nutjobs every time they scored a goal.

So first, so goes the criticism, the American females could have just stopped with the endless scoring. Second, at the very least, after each score, with the backdrop of broken-hearted and humiliated Thai females, the Americans could have cheered, but not like nut jobs.

I saw a video of all the shenanigans going on in that game and I suppose the American team over-did it a bit. And even here in America we have an accepted notion that beating a team with over-the-top scoring is considered bad sportsmanship.

I think that American team should be proud, sure. But hopefully they learned a lesson about class, winning and humility.


Scuttlebutt has it that the current Press Secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, might run for Governor of Arkansas some day.

That’s just idle gossip as her father is Mike Huckabee, former Governor of Arkansas.

Frankly I think Sarah did a fine job. She handled that aggressive White House press corps with strength and dignity.

Here’s wishing her well and may we someday call her Governor Sanders.


6 posted on 06/16/2019 4:32:14 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Alas Babylon!

Payne’s okay but I’m disappointed Maria’s off today.

7 posted on 06/16/2019 4:51:59 AM PDT by be-baw
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To: Alas Babylon!

Got to watch Sunday Morning Future only. There is only one nutcase on there....The others a test pattern would be more entertaining. Even President Trump one with Georgie is not worth watching...

8 posted on 06/16/2019 5:02:19 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: Fishtalk
In order to get America connected effectively from coast to coast, it became a protected monopoly. Indeed WE manufactured the ocean cable that connected America to the rest of the world. You couldn’t have every Mom and Pop making wires that work here, not there. Or putting up poles in backyards or burying cable in corner ponds. AT&T needed freedom from competition to get the country connected.

That's all true and applies locally, and to some extent federally. One other benefit people often overlook is that Bell Labs had tons of money and incentive to invent new things. They invented the transistor, so we have computers, internet, etc. They also invented the photocell so we have alternative energy. Some people say wind is alternative, but it's ancient, and doesn't scale well. But photocells and semiconductors will scale to the point where they will be super cheap and super efficient. So in a few decades there will be no reason not to get most of our energy from them.

9 posted on 06/16/2019 5:05:18 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Gordon Chang on to give his 18 year update of his book, The Coming Collapse of China?

10 posted on 06/16/2019 5:08:42 AM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Excellent expose of how the left has to twist and turn everything good in the country into something bad so their meme of complete control will be complete.
Some think its getting so bad that the hard left pedophilia monsters, group think leftists would try and steal a baby right out of a woman's womb.Naahhhh.... that could never happen could it.?Well think again,seems it did.
Seems a couple trying to unwind from a couple of hard moths on their way to Maine to enjoy a few weeks off make a tragic mistake and stopped at the wrong hospital in Conn and the rest is hard to believe.
They were declared terrorists on the run the woman who was 38 weeks pregnant and had stopped due to back pain was forced to undress with the entire staff of hospital druggies watching and then given an IV.
when she woke up from the IV her baby had been taken and she was told she would never see it again.
This is all too bizarre to fathom. This couple met in med school and decided to put their desire to become doctors on hold in favor of having a family and then are forced to endure a travesty of justice because the father has a Coptic christian heritage!!Wow hard to imagine.
here are some links:

After delivering two boys by cesarean birth, mom’s dreams were finally realized when she became pregnant for the third time, and this time it was a baby girl in answer to her prayers.

Suzy wanted the best for the new daughter growing in her womb, so she sought medical help to try and have a natural birth, uncommon but not impossible when the first pregnancies end in cesarean births.

The family was living in Tennessee, and Suzy was not happy with the prenatal care she was receiving. Peter’s family is from New Jersey, and after one of his family members died and they traveled to New Jersey to attend the funeral, they found a birthing center there that Suzy felt comfortable with in terms of trying a natural birth.

At 38 weeks of pregnancy with her daughter, Suzy was experiencing some anxiety and suffering from bad nights of sleep. Family and friends suggested she take a few days off with her husband, while family members watched the two boys.

They knew about a lovely place in Maine they had been wanting to visit, and decided that the 6-hour trip would do them some good.

As they drove from New Jersey to Maine, Suzy experienced some pain, and to be on the safe side, they decided to stop at a hospital in Connecticut.

This is when the real nightmares began. Her husband’s family is originally from Egypt, although Peter grew up in the United States and has been a U.S. citizen since he was a child. His family in Egypt are Coptic Christians, a minority group in a country that is predominately Muslim.

Before they fully understood what was happening, Peter was allegedly being accused of being a Muslim terrorist and fleeing the law, and Suzy was being accused of being a drug addict, simply because she had some prescription medications with her to treat her high blood pressure and diabetes.

She was allegedly drugged and forced to have cesarean surgery, and hospital staff then allegedly worked together with social service workers to take custody of her baby.

After 6 months of trying to comply with everything the Connecticut Department of Children and Families (DCF) was requiring of the parents in order to get their baby daughter back, they have now decided to go public with their story.

Parents Falsely Accused and Never Arrested
Since going public, the parents have published over 38,000 words describing their ordeal, on Facebook and a GoFundMe page, and they claim that they have multiple recordings as well to back up everything they say.

Suzy writes:

Please help us!! My husband is African-Egyptian- American, we have two beautiful healthy children together and live in Davidson county, Nashville TN.

We were driving through Middletown Connecticut while I was pregnant with my 3rd child after visiting family in New Jersey when I felt some pain in my back so we decided to stop at a nearby hospital (Middlesex).

Once inside they started making all of these accusations against us saying that because we are a mixed race couple, that we “look like criminals.”

They started accusing my husband of being a “muslim terrorist” and me of being a “drug addict.” None of it is true! My tox screens were all negative and my husband and I are both Christian!!

They told us it is just “too suspicious” that we were driving through their state while pregnant and accused us of having “no prenatal care, of being from crummy low-life families, being criminals running from the law, of being Muslim terrorists, drug addicts, drug lords or both, gypsies living out of our car, and international baby sellers” among other things.

Each and every time we would disprove one accusation, they would accuse us of something else and say “ok, now prove us wrong.”

Charges were never filed against the parents.

Allegedly Drugged and Forced Surgery to Get Access to the Baby
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Baby Sofia. Image from Facebook.

Suzy writes that after medical staff examined her, it was determined that she was not in labor yet. She was allegedly forced to undress in front of male interns, and then she was allegedly drugged and forced to have a cesarean surgery, after informing them that she was leaving the hospital because she did not like the way they were treating her.

Two nurses then pulled off my pants and underwear right in front of a whole room of nursing staff whom I have never met, including male staff. Before they had even given me anything to cover up with, they ordered me to further remove the rest of my clothes.

I asked them to ask the male nurses to please leave while I was undressing, they refused. As I was taking off my bra, one of the male nurses turned his head and smirked.

After I was forced to take off my clothes and was sitting there for at least a few minutes completely naked, a nurse tossed a fabric gown at me, giggled and said “ here honey, cover those things up.”

It was completely dehumanizing and humiliating.

I was then forced to urinate in a cup in front of 2 hospital staff who called me a “drug addict.” (My toxicology screen was negative, as was the baby’s!)

After that I went to get my clothes to put them back on to leave. Another nurse asked me what I was doing. I told her that I didn’t like the way I was being treated and that I was leaving.

She apologized for what the other staff had done and said that they just get a lot of “junkies” in there and that I should at least stay long enough to get an IV and let them check my cervix to make sure the baby was ok.

I agreed to stay only to get my cervix checked and get an IV in case anything was wrong.

After they put the IV in, the nurse injected clear fluid into my IV but wouldn’t say what it was and I started to get really dizzy. The doctor came in and checked my cervix and said that I was barely 1 cm dilated, if that.

She asked me if I had any medical records (but never once asked for a release for anything).

I told her I thought I had my ultrasound report in my email and started looking through my phone.

She finally said its fine we’ll just get it after the c-section.

I told her no, I wanted to be allowed to leave to go back to New Jersey to have the baby where we were staying with family. She told me that they had me scheduled for a repeat c-section.

I told her no, that I did not want to have another c-section and that I wanted to birth my daughter naturally this time and that I wanted to leave.

I told her if they didn’t let me leave, we were going to call the police and report them for holding us as hostages in the hospital against our will.

She said “go ahead, the law is on OUR SIDE IN CONNECTICUT and if you don’t stop resisting we are going to call the police and have you arrested for child endangerment and they will come in and chain you to the bed and force you to have the surgery anyway.”

[The nurse] even wrote in her report to the DCF that the C-section was to be done on “short order” meaning that it was to be “done very quickly.”

She also admitted that we asked to leave the hospital before the c-section was performed and that they refused to let us leave and held us there against our will, saying we were a “flight risk.”

What excuse did they have to have done the c-section so quickly, and against my will, even though there was no medical need to do so?

I was not in any distress, I never even felt a single contraction, the baby was not in any distress and her heart rate was fine.

There was absolutely NO MEDICAL NEED for them to have forced this C-section on me.

The reason was because they wanted to take my daughter out of my body as quickly as possible JUST SO THEY COULD STEAL HER FROM US!

We had been at the hospital no more than an hour and they were already wheeling me back to have the c-section. I was NEVER given the opportunity to labor and birth my child naturally and I NEVER ever gave them permission to do the c-section or signed anything giving them permission to do so.

It was as if my body was not my own. I was not allowed to make any of the decisions regarding the birth of my daughter.

What they did to me at that hospital completely violated my rights as a person, as a parent and as a human.

They wanted the baby inside me and drugged me to cut her out against my will, just to get her away from us so they could keep her.

They never, ever intended to allow us to leave the hospital with our child.

Baby Sofia Suffers in Hospital as Mother is Allegedly Harassed
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Suzy with her newborn baby. Image from Facebook.

Once the baby was born, the parents were allegedly continued to be treated as criminals, preventing the mother from properly nursing and bonding with her newborn daughter.

The following heart-wrenching video was captured where you can hear the frantic cries of the baby, and how the baby stops crying as soon as she is held in her mother’s arms, in spite of the fact that the mother is very stressed and crying herself.

Suzy writes:

That first day I cried all day as I held my newborn daughter in my arms. I kept falling in and out of sleep but I made sure to hold her close to me to keep her warm.

I also made sure to hold her in a specific way so as not smother her if I fell asleep and I continued to feed her and try to nurse her even though I knew my milk had not come it yet.

As I was holding my daughter and crying from all the emotional and physical stress I was going through, my evening nurse kept coming in and asking me about Peter my husband.

He was asleep at this point and she kept asking me what he was running and hiding from and who was he really?

I told her that he really was my husband and that we were not “running from anything or anyone.”

She continued to harass me saying that if she had a daughter who came home with some “Saudi Arabian muslim guy” who was “running from the law,” that she would disown that daughter and never let her in the house again.”

She told me that as far as she was concerned, an “A-RAB” was no better than a “Mexican behind a wall” and that in her opinion and the “opinion of the other hospital staff,” that I needed to just “turn him in” for whatever he is “running from the law for.”

Then she asked if he was really the father of my other children and if we really did have custody of them.

I told her yes and then asked her to please leave my room.

She eventually left but continued to come back in and kept taking my infant from me while I was trying to nurse her, making up different excuses each time, but mainly kept telling me that she was “too tired to nurse.”

I asked her to please stop harassing me and leave me to bond with my child but she refused.

Mom Denied Medical Care and Baby Taken Away From Parents – No Charges Ever Filed Against Parents
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Image from Facebook.

While in the hospital, Suzy was allegedly denied permission to leave her hospital room to get the prescription medications she needed for her blood pressure and diabetes.

As the hours went by I could feel my blood pressure getting higher and higher. I asked my husband to go get my blood pressure medicine out of the car.

The nurse came in and said he was not “allowed” to give me any outside medicine. I told them I needed to take my blood pressure medicine.

The nurse told me that the doctor had “discontinued” all of my medications.

I told them they could not discontinue a medicine they did not prescribe.

She told me I could “take it up with the doctor in the morning.” I told her “no you don’t understand, I have to have the medicine to control my heart rate and my blood pressure.”

She told me she didn’t care and that I could take it up with the doctor in the morning. I begged and pleaded for them to let me have my blood pressure and diabetes medicine, they all told me they didn’t care.

I was crying about how we had been treated and that my heart rate by then was nearly 200 and my blood pressure was 180/120.

After I continued to complain about it and as it continued to climb, they finally gave me my beta blocker but still refused to give me my diabetes medicine.

After that Peter and I were exhausted and both slept for around 8 hours straight.

The next morning when we awoke, my blood sugar was also very high and they finally gave me the Metformin I was prescribed by my general practitioner.

Then a neonatologist came in our room and started telling us that he “knew” we did not care about our baby because if we did, we would have been in the nursery for EVERY FEEDING and that if he wanted to, he could have us prosecuted for neglecting her just because we didn’t show up for 2 of her feedings!!

We explained to him everything that had happened and that I was made to go the entire previous day without any of my medications, that I had been in excruciating pain and that we were both exhausted and just needed some sleep.

He said he didn’t care and that we “should have been there.”

We asked him isn’t the nursery there to give the parents some rest?

He said no, that this was a “baby friendly hospital” and that we, as the parents were supposed to do all the feedings.

We told him that we didn’t send our daughter there willingly.

He changed the subject and started saying that he “knew” we did not even have custody of our other children and that we would not be allowed to keep Sofia anyway so there was no need for us to see her anymore.

I started crying as Peter was telling him it wasn’t true, that we do have custody of our other children. He accused us of “kidnapping” our other two children (that he said he “knew” we did not actually have custody of) and trying to make a break for the Canadian border and refused to tell us who told him that we didn’t actually “have custody of our other children.” (not true in any way)

We asked him how could we be trying to “run for the border” if we didn’t even have our children with us at the time? He didn’t have an answer.

We begged and pleaded with him to please let us see our baby.

He told us that we would be allowed to see her only for feedings and that if we missed even one more single feeding, that we would not be allowed to see her anymore.

He told us that the DCF would be there to take custody of her on Tuesday and that he was going to testify against us about how we “neglected” her by sleeping during her scheduled feeding times and about how I “refused” to sign a medical release for my prenatal records.

I told him that wasn’t true and that I never refused to sign anything. I asked him if I signed the medical releases and we make her an appointment with a pediatrician in CT, would we be allowed to keep our daughter and take her home?

He laughed and said no, that if we thought we would be going home with our daughter, we were dead wrong and that we would not be going home with her “for a very long time, if EVER.”

Suzy writes that they already have the court date set to terminate their parental rights in November of 2019, allowing them to adopt out the baby.

Even though they do not even have a guilty judgement against us yet, they are so confident they will win that they have another court date set for us for November of this year to have our parental rights terminated! And for what???? What was our crime???

Our only crime was to drive through CT, walk into the hospital to make sure everything was ok with my pregnancy and the baby and that was it!

By the time we realized how hateful they were being attacking us and we asked to leave, it was too late. They held us captive inside the hospital until they had illegally cut my daughter out of my body and never had any intention of letting us go home with her.

What they are doing is not only WRONG, it is ILLEGAL in so many ways!! Please is there anyone out there who can help us???!!! Please don’t let these people steal our daughter’s life from her!
this is all really unbelievable at the very least we need to help with their go fund me page.This should never happen in the US.Let's hope the Trump administration finds out about this.

11 posted on 06/16/2019 5:09:19 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Chris Christie? Where’s he been? Was he flogging a book the last we saw him?

12 posted on 06/16/2019 5:14:52 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Christie has been a regular on the roundtable discussion on that show.

13 posted on 06/16/2019 5:21:26 AM PDT by be-baw
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To: Fishtalk
Great stuff Pat much appreciated.

We all heard the potus say he would love to run against slo Joe since he has an IQ of about 10% of everyone else! Just a great slam against the biggest liar/plagarist ever to run for any polictial office.

Meanwhile ol' Bernie clings to his commie roots hoping he can steal enough money from capitalists to turn the US into another Venezuela or Cuba,no thanks Bernie!

14 posted on 06/16/2019 5:21:50 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: be-baw

Oh. Thanks. Guess you can tell which Freeper doesn’t have a TV!

15 posted on 06/16/2019 5:22:23 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: rodguy911

Last night I realized that the Democrat nominee will be Obama.

16 posted on 06/16/2019 5:24:29 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Chickensoup

Which one? Michael or Barry!

17 posted on 06/16/2019 5:26:39 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: rodguy911

lol the esteemed Barak Hussain Obama.

18 posted on 06/16/2019 5:30:22 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Alas Babylon!

House Republicans are reportedly outraged over Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham’s “showboating” since taking over the chairmanship from Senator Grassley.

Senator Chuck Grassley was serious about getting to the bottom of Spygate when he was Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, but House Republicans are saying that Senator Graham (R-SC) is putting on a “charade” on Fox News for South Carolina voters and “not doing a f*cking thing,” according to investigative reporter, Paul Sperry.

SPERRY: House Republicans r upset w what they call Sen Graham’s showboating since taking over Senate Judiciary from Grassley,who they say was “serious” bout getting to bottom of #SpyGate. But Graham’s just putting on “charade” on Fox for S.C. voters& “not doing a f*cking thing”
Interesting stuff about Linda. One has to wonder is he stalling because he may have jeopardy due to his buddy/buddy relationship with one of the biggest terrorists ever McQueeg?How much were both of them into the oil for weapons for cash game going on in the mid east,inquiring minds....

19 posted on 06/16/2019 5:37:44 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I gave up on Fox News Sunday some time ago due to an illness best described as “ChrisWallaceitus”. Very tough on the eyes and particularly the ears. Unbearable, in fact.

I would add a slight correction to the description of today’s show. It should probably read:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (GOTCHA) Delusional democrat presidential candidate Sen. Burnie Sanders (LOVE) I-Vt. & NOPE*; Left-wing activist and so-called comedian Jon Stewart (EVEN MORE LOVE).

20 posted on 06/16/2019 5:37:44 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. A)
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