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To: FLT-bird
Strangely enough I agree with you - President Trump wasn't "interfering" any more than the non-American politicians are when they comment on American affairs

The difference is - as I keep pointing out - the USA is a hyperpower. The USA really matters to nearly every person on the planet, so of course they have an opinion on American matters and of course their opinions have little to no influence on the hyperpower. But American opinions on another country HAVE influence -- if the President tomorrow says "I don't like the UK" - just SAYS it, the GDP of the UK (or france or whoever) will drop.

I liken the USA's influence to the Roman Empire's influence over Antiochus - the ruler of Syria to Iran. When he wanted to invade another country, the Roman ambassador asked him to desist as Rome didn't want that. Antiochus said he'd think about it. The Roman ambassador drew a circle in chalk around Antiochus and told him to think about it in side the circle and come out with a decision. he capitulated

THAT is the USA - and I'm not trying to use hyperbole, the USA is economically, politically, diplomatically and culturally hyper-dominant (and i'm not even talking about militarily) - that isn't jingoism, it's fact.

47 posted on 06/16/2019 9:08:05 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama hated Assad as he wasn't a Muslim but an Alawite)
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To: Cronos

Allow me to present the view from the other side:

Foreigners CONSTANTLY comment on, try to interfere in and sometimes even openly say they should have a voice or vote in American internal politics.....even while simultaneously being extremely hyper defensive about Americans doing the same to them. Here are 3 examples just from the last couple months:

- the beta Cuck prime minister of Canada made public comments about how he was going to bitch to the US Vice President whom he was set to meet with shortly, about some of the recent anti abortion laws adopted by a few Southern states. Firstly, those are state laws and the federal government has nothing to do with it so even IF he were inclined to agree, wtf is a representative of the federal government supposed to do about it? Secondly and more importantly who the Eff told you it was any of your effing business Trudeau? You’re not an American. It does not concern you.

- the prime Minister of New Zealand gave an interview to a British journalist based in the US and aired on CNN wherein she went on and on about how she just doesn’t understand why the US does not adopt the same gun laws she just pushed through in New Zealand taking away citizens’ rights because of the actions of a couple of lunatics there. Then of course she spewed some lies about how this would increase public safety - lies that have been debunked many times by various studies - much to the approval of that British journalist. This came very very shortly after the Kiwis publicly pitched a fit about some comments by gun rights advocates in the US saying they hoped the New Zealand government would not restrict the gun rights of New Zealanders in the wake of the mass shooting there. So.....it’s terrible when Americans do it but it’s just fine and dandy when they do it far more flagrantly to us a month or so later.

- the Chancellor of Germany just gave a graduation commencement address at an Ivy League school wherein she bitched about US foreign policy, said the direction of American foreign and domestic policy was all wrong and “dangerous” and drew not so veiled comparisons to Europe in the 1930s......even while still freeloading on America to provide their national defense and openly breaking their word to spend a paltry 2% of gdp on national defense.....even while they have almost completed a second massive pipeline to make themselves yet more dependent on and to shovel yet more cash at the very country they claim they need us to defend them against.....even while systematically coming along and seeking to undermine US foreign policy and hopefully make a few euros profit by dealing with Saddam, Iran, Cuba and every other vile dictator on the planet.

JUST IMAGINE Trump going to Germany and giving a speech saying their chancellor was stupid and backwards, German policy both foreign and domestic was wrong about everything - and moreover comparing it to the dark days of the 1930s. Can you even imagine the hysterical screaming of politicians and the media in Germany? Yet it’s perfectly fine to treat us this way and we’re supposed to just take it with no complaints.

This type of thing happens all the time. If you ever wonder why many Americans sometimes hostile toward several of our so-called “allies”, this gives you a good idea as to why. You will NEVER hear any of this in the media over there and most of the US media won’t say anything about it but believe me, many Americans very much DO notice things like this.


60 posted on 06/17/2019 6:07:30 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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