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Politics Shape The Debate Over What To Call Far-Right Extremism (NPR)
NPR ^ | June 23, 2019 | HANNAH ALLAM

Posted on 06/24/2019 10:37:30 AM PDT by Drango

In the back of a nondescript building at the University of Maryland, a team of researchers combs through the files of homegrown extremists who have plotted attacks in the name of far-right causes.

In each case, researchers are hunting for the motivation, the ideology, that inspired the violence. That means digging into the many elements that make up the far right, as researcher Michael Jensen explained on a recent afternoon.

"White supremacist, white nationalist, white extremist, sovereign citizen, anti-government, Patriot [movement], neo-Nazis, skinhead. What else?" Jensen asked two of his colleagues, Elizabeth Yates and Patrick James.

"I've seen 'anti-federalist' recently," Yates said.

"We also deal with a lot of just specifically anti-Muslim or anti-immigrant," James added. "Kind of xenophobic cases."

That list, rattled off on the spot, is nowhere near exhaustive, but it shows the complexities of trying to better understand far-right violence, which federal authorities say is the deadliest and most active form of domestic extremism. The labels the researchers use to code attacks are part of a wider debate over what to call the far-right threat — and how politics plays into that debate.

The analysis produced by the university's National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism, or START Center for short, gets picked up by policymakers, academics and journalists. So, the research team says, the more precise the wording, the better, when it comes to helping public understanding of an evolving threat that defies simple labels.

"It's difficult to put people in these neat buckets and say there's the white supremacist over there and there's the anti-government ones over there," Jensen said. "It doesn't work that neatly."

Two debates: one academic, one political

But while academic researchers are pushing for more precision in describing white nationalism and other far-right extremism, the Trump administration seems to be moving in the opposite direction, with some officials adopting more generic terms such as "ethno-violence" or "racially motivated extremism." Unless they're being questioned by Congress, security officials rarely mention "white nationalist" or "white supremacist" violence. Those terms are missing from federal agencies' websites, too.

"I'm appalled that the leadership, at least some people, feel that they can't use those terms," said Mary McCord, a former federal prosecutor who oversaw terrorism-related cases at the Justice Department. "These acts of violence we've seen recently — Tree of Life synagogue [in Pittsburgh], the recent events in California, international events like in Christchurch in New Zealand. I mean, these are white supremacists."

President Trump has dismissed white nationalists as a "small group of people." He has retweeted white nationalist accounts. And there is little daylight between his anti-immigrant speeches and those of far-right extremists. White supremacist factions were spotted among the crowds cheering for Trump at his 2020 campaign kickoff rally in Florida this week.

Critics of the administration's handling of the far-right threat say it is no mystery why administration officials don't speak up more forcefully — it would put them at odds with the White House.

Eric Ward, a longtime civil rights activist who leads the nonprofit Western States Center in Oregon, said there are two main consequences of the administration's mixed messaging. First, it muddies the picture that law enforcement and the public have of the white nationalist threat; and, secondly, it gives at least the appearance of political cover to hate groups that have moved from the fringe to the mainstream in recent years.

"You have a white nationalist movement that, correctly or incorrectly, believed that it was part of a coalition that elected Donald Trump to the White House," Ward said. "And this administration should be saying and doing everything within its legal power and its moral voice to drive home that it wants nothing to do with that movement."

There's no sign that such a clear-cut disavowal is coming, extremism trackers say. Instead, the administration remains fixated on playing up the threats of Islamist and far-left militant groups, especially Antifa, a self-styled anti-fascist organization known for black-masked protesters.

Art Jipson, a professor at the University of Dayton, said this was made clear to him during a recent video conference with a State Department official who used terms Jipson had never encountered in his nearly three decades of studying homegrown extremists.

"Anarcho-Marxist violent revolutionaries," Jipson said, laughing. "And then they started using terms like Islamo-terrorism and anarchic Islamic terrorist organizations and networks. I don't even know what that means!"

He said he asked the State Department rep to explain.

"The person made a joke about, 'Oh that's just the term my boss gave me to use in this webinar,'" Jipson recalled. "I'm, like, what? You're using a term and you don't even know what it means?"

Defining the far right

Realizing that the government isn't going to take the lead on defining the far-right threat, researchers at universities and think tanks have begun talks to come up with a common vocabulary: Should they use "far right" as an umbrella term? What about "the radical right"? Or is "white supremacist" the driving ideology?

"This is one of the most contested questions you can ask," said Cynthia Miller-Idriss, an American University professor who has written extensively about the far right. "I just came from a meeting two weeks ago with a group of scholars from across the country and we spent the whole dinner, practically, talking about: Can we come up with a term?"

They couldn't reach an agreement over dinner, Miller-Idriss said, but they're still brainstorming how to make such a complex topic more widely understood by the public and clear enough so that law enforcement knows exactly what to look for as it investigates far-right extremism.

"Language matters because it's a reflection of how seriously something gets taken," she said.

NPR interviewed more than a dozen extremism trackers, and each had different preferred terms and different reasons for why theirs was the most accurate.

For example, some terms might work well in the United States but have different interpretations overseas — a problem as researchers increasingly look at white racial violence as an international phenomenon. At times, the debate is over the subcategories. Some scholars draw distinctions between white nationalism and white supremacists; others say a racist is a racist. Still others want to do away with the "left" and "right" framing of extremism, arguing that the real measure is whether an ideology leans toward democratic ideals or totalitarianism.

"It's a supercomplicated issue that isn't fully resolved," Miller-Idriss said.

After the Sept. 11 attacks, a similar debate erupted over what to call militants from al-Qaida and, later, the Islamic State. "Islamist extremist" has emerged as the term with the most support, but there's still disagreement nearly 20 years later.

Jipson said he is worried that the tug of war over words is clouding the real threat: white racial extremism's potential for violence.

"Whether it's a belief in a race war that they see as inevitable, or belief that their nation is under attack and they have to fight back, violence — whatever the motivation — is a call to arms," Jipson said. "So we have to articulate that and explain that in as thoughtful and precise and clear a way as we can."


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This is an ugly, vile smear from NPR.

I sent a copy to my congressman and asked him why we are funding this swill.

1 posted on 06/24/2019 10:37:30 AM PDT by Drango
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To: Drango

As opposed to the Useful Idiots shat out by the Cultural Marxists of old who run the DNC?

Maybe everything looks so far right because the Left is bonkers to deranged, not because the rest of us has changed.


2 posted on 06/24/2019 10:42:08 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Drango
Uh, America loving citizens/ patriots works for me. While defunding the u.n., add npr/pbs to that. 💩🚽
3 posted on 06/24/2019 10:42:19 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Drango

Far right extremism to NPR is anybody on the right who has killed fewer than their murderous heroes: Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro brothers (combined.)


4 posted on 06/24/2019 10:43:51 AM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies & other DemoKKKrats: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Drango

Have any one of these so called Extremist Groups attempted to Murder Leftist Congressmen practicing for a Baseball Game?


5 posted on 06/24/2019 10:44:09 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: Drango

What far-right extremism? The only extremism I see that’s stirring up trouble is far-left extremism.


6 posted on 06/24/2019 10:45:10 AM PDT by be-baw
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To: Drango

Exactly!

This is one more reason why I detested the antics of the McConnell / Ryan years.

We could have easily defunded NPR and PBS.


7 posted on 06/24/2019 10:47:47 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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To: Drango

The Ministry of Propaganda is trying to make it socially unacceptable to be a Constitutionalist.


8 posted on 06/24/2019 10:49:23 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: All

Can someone send this to Drudge? I get a service error when I try.


9 posted on 06/24/2019 10:50:08 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: DoughtyOne

This is one more reason why I detested the antics of the McConnell / Ryan years.

We could have easily defunded NPR and PBS.
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Could have built the wall and ramped up deportations, too.

Re-electing McConnell and Graham and the rest of the Bush League Republicans who caused the illegal alien inundation by constantly dangling amnesty will never Make America Great Again.


10 posted on 06/24/2019 10:52:22 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Drango

This horsesh@t. The violence traditionally comes the left. I can name a violent leftist hate group like antifa but try naming one from the right! They name Anifa, but don’t name a right wing hate group in this article. Why? Because, they are don’t exist to get name recognition.

It is a non threat but that doesn’t stop these idiots — who have to do something to earn their paychecks — from writing idiotic articles and being part of the FAKE NEWS.

Thank God I don’t have a job where I have to tow the party line of idiocy and fake news.


11 posted on 06/24/2019 10:52:44 AM PDT by BEJ
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To: Drango
The KKK was formed as the enforcement wing of the Democrat party, to keep freed slaves from voting against Democrats. Antifa is simply the 21st Century version.

Preventing the exercise of civil rights through violence - a Democrat tradition.


12 posted on 06/24/2019 10:53:59 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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To: Drango

Anyone who is NOT a liberal/socialist/communist is a Far Right Extremist/Nationalist/Terrorist...


13 posted on 06/24/2019 10:56:49 AM PDT by JBW1949
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To: Drango

Left wing extremism.

Calling someone privileged is extremism.
Black Lives Matter is extremism.
Attacking someone because of ideology is extremism.
Shutting down web sites and chat rooms because of political ideology is extremism.

Anyone want to add to this list?


14 posted on 06/24/2019 10:57:00 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Trump is President and CEO of America, Inc.)
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To: Drango

Interesting question that they discussed: Why does the administration disavow support from ‘far-right extremists’? Also, that the majority of extremist terrorism is from the so-called right.

My view is - the first question ought to have a corresponding Democrat party answer to “Why do you not reject support from Black Lives Matter’? My second point is that the last half of their supposition is totally false and deliberately dishonest.


15 posted on 06/24/2019 11:03:04 AM PDT by Gumdrop (qui)
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To: Drango

How about we dig into the twisted minds and actions of Leftists of various stripes around the world since, oh, about 100 years ago. You’ll find over 100 million dead bodies, abuses of power that we can’t even imagine, and a happiness quotient of about 5 on a scale of 1 to 100.

But sure, let’s study the miniscule number of sick phucks that are actual right-wing extremists. They MAYBE kill a dozen people a year (and this needs to be stopped, to be sure), but Communism has killed nearly twice as many EACH DAY over the last 100 years.

SCREW NPR, and the rest of the Leftists out there. One day they’re going to push too far...and let’s just say that people of this country are not about to be dominated by those espousing such an ideology, and they have the means to ensure that they won’t be so dominated.


16 posted on 06/24/2019 11:05:51 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Drango

National Socialists (Nazis) are far LEFT, not far right.
This is the longstanding lie that the communist media keeps returning to, since there’s always been bad blood between commies and nazis... the commies try to insult the nazis by calling them something they hate (right wing instead of socialist left wingers)

in reality, nazis and commies are pretty much the SAME thing, just waving different flags is all


17 posted on 06/24/2019 11:07:43 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Antifa operates only in cities that are controlled by “progressives”. They know the police will not arrest them and will protect them if they come across stout and effective opposition. Six months after these thugs terrorized Tucker Carlson’s family and vandalized his property, the crack Washington, D.C. police have yet to make an arrest.


18 posted on 06/24/2019 11:09:37 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: Drango
security officials rarely mention "white nationalist" or "white supremacist" violence.

Just curious: Do security officials mention "Islamic terrorism" or "black-on-white violence" or "Central American drug gangs" or "anti-American snowflakes"?

19 posted on 06/24/2019 11:10:45 AM PDT by SamuraiScot (am)
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To: DoughtyOne

Defunded NPR and PBS!


20 posted on 06/24/2019 11:11:30 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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