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Supreme Court Justices Continue To Struggle With Precedent
NPR ^ | June 26, 2019 | Nina Totenberg

Posted on 06/27/2019 2:37:56 AM PDT by SMGFan

The Supreme Court is struggling with precedent — and that could have big implications for future cases, with liberals on the side of holding the line and conservatives on the other.

AUDIE CORNISH, HOST:

Tomorrow the U.S. Supreme Court is expected to hand down its remaining decisions. Over the past two weeks alone, it will have decided some 24 major cases. Nina Totenberg, NPR's legal affairs correspondent, has been burning the midnight oil to cover all this. She joins us now. Welcome to the studio, Nina.

NINA TOTENBERG, BYLINE: Thanks.

CORNISH: Let's just start with today. What did the court do that was important?

TOTENBERG: Well, Audie, I promise you this is not boring. The justices spend a total of 75 pages and 4 opinions, including a passionate and sometimes snarky minority opinion from Justice Neil Gorsuch, and it's all about - (imitating drum roll), drum roll - how agencies enforce their own rules. There's this long line of cases that dates back three quarters of a century, and these decisions tell lower court judges that they're generally supposed to defer to an agency's reasonable interpretation of its own rules.

Now, for decades, some conservatives have been gunning for this agency deference rule. They see it as the ultimate representation of the administrative state or in the view of some government bureaucracy run amok. But today, the court, by a 5-to-4 vote, upheld the agency deference doctrine. Justice Elena Kagan writing for the majority reaffirmed the importance of deferring to agency expertise. But she also limited the deference in specific ways. What emerges, she said, is a doctrine not quite so tame as some might hope but not nearly so menacing as they might fear.

CORNISH: And it looks like the fifth and decisive vote came from Chief Justice John Roberts and that he joined the court's more liberal-leaning justices. Can you talk about that?

TOTENBERG: Well, even administrative law nerds noticed that first. Here's Case Western law professor Jonathan Adler.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: activistcourt; godsinblackdresses; ninatotebag; scotus; supremecourt
Today is the conclusion of 2018 - 19 SCOTUS season.
1 posted on 06/27/2019 2:37:56 AM PDT by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

Anybody have statistics for how often Roberts sided with the libs?


2 posted on 06/27/2019 2:46:14 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: SMGFan
Remember....In every single case...Before Precedent....there was precedent.

That is....killing babies in the womb aka murder....was not accepted before Roe vs Wade.

3 posted on 06/27/2019 2:54:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SauronOfMordor

not sure where to search for that in an easy for but ....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberts_Court#List_of_Roberts_Court_opinions


4 posted on 06/27/2019 3:03:23 AM PDT by SMGFan ("God love ya! What am I talking about")
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To: SMGFan

The founders put restrictions on government, not the freedoms of individuals. Lefties, libs, progressives deeply desire to reverse that discriptive.


5 posted on 06/27/2019 3:09:13 AM PDT by exnavy (american by birth and choice, I love this country!)
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To: SMGFan

They make holding the liberal line as just, moral and imperative to the survival of America. STRUGGLE? no! a necessity yes!


6 posted on 06/27/2019 3:09:26 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nicdip.com)
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To: SMGFan

Does that mean they aren’t going to take up the New York State rifle and pistol association case?


7 posted on 06/27/2019 3:20:44 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: SMGFan

Bad decisions, preserved and sustained, do not make good law.


8 posted on 06/27/2019 4:14:15 AM PDT by jimfree (My18 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: SMGFan

Dred Scott and Roe suffice to indicate that precedent can require review.


9 posted on 06/27/2019 4:24:53 AM PDT by lurk
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To: lurk

Korematsu (American Japanese detention) remains precedent, and should, in accord with Totenberg’s fealty to settled bad decisions.


10 posted on 06/27/2019 4:38:52 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: RandallFlagg
Does that mean they aren’t going to take up the New York State rifle and pistol association case?

They are picking the cases now that they will hear next term. Don't know if the above is on the docket for it. Do you have a case name?

11 posted on 06/27/2019 6:55:59 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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Just found it:
18-280 NEW YORK STATE RIFLE & PISTOL ASSN., INC. V. CITY OF NEW YORK


12 posted on 06/27/2019 12:41:20 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: zeugma

According to the SCOTUS site, they’re hearing the case in October.

QUESTION PRESENTED:New York City prohibits its residents from possessing a handgun without a license, and the only license the City makes available to most residents allows its holder to possess her handgun only in her home or en route to one of seven shooting ranges within the city. The City thus bans its residents from transporting a handgun to any place outside city limits-even if the handgun is unloaded and locked in a container separate from its ammunition, and even if the owner seeks to transport it only to a second home for the core constitutionally protected purpose of self-defense, or to a more convenient out-of-city shooting range to hone its safe and effective use.

The City asserts that its transport ban promotes public safety by limiting the presence of handguns on city streets. But the City put forth no empirical evidence that transporting an unloaded handgun, locked in a container separate from its ammunition, poses a meaningful risk to public safety. Moreover, even if there were such a risk, the City’s restriction poses greater safety risks by encouraging residents who are leaving town to leave their handguns behind in vacant homes, and it serves only to increase the frequency of handgun transport within city limits by forcing many residents to use an in-city range rather than more convenient ranges elsewhere.

The question presented is:

Whether the City’s ban on transporting a licensed, locked, and unloaded handgun to a home or shooting range outside city limits is consistent with the Second Amendment, the Commerce Clause, and the constitutional right to travel.

LOWER COURT CASE NUMBER: 15-638


13 posted on 06/27/2019 1:03:25 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Thanks. That one will be interesting to check out the oral arguments once it’s been heard.


14 posted on 06/27/2019 2:03:54 PM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: zeugma

Stephen Stamboleah (sp?) was on one of my firearms podcasts talking about his arguments.
One was:
“Does the first amendment only apply in the home? Does the fourth amendment mean, to them, that police can search everything on your person the second that you leave your house? Can law enforcement capture you on the way to work and torture you?”


15 posted on 06/27/2019 3:42:40 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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