the FREESH1T Army strikes again!!! everything is FREE till a place closes...
Posted on 06/29/2019 1:20:34 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel
When I had my subclavian catheter put in for dialysis ten years ago, the original bill was $31,000, including OR staff. I had a really good insurance plan through my Dad (I was 21) and his job, and his insurance company was billed $9,700. That was all. Our portion was 10%.
It’s not just Medicare. To an extent, all insurance companies negotiate for lower prices, some more than others. That lack of transparency about negotiations is the major problem, in my opinion.
It would be nice to go back to the ‘70s model of up-front payments, but the addition of technology and the hospital renting all of their major equipment makes that difficult.
Yet there was a time from ~ 1960-1985 that if you were severely injured and needed immediate trauma services, the very best care in the world was rendered at the Kings County Hospital ER and its associated trauma surgical services. By the late 1980’s the hospital began to have politically correct, community based staffing and work rules. Its glory days were over.
Without any vasoline beforehand.
The federal government has been reducing their Medicare reimbursements for a very long time, and hospitals shifted their costs to the insured. Then Obozocare comes around and tells insurances companies (who by the way helped the government) what policies need to cover (e.g. nuns need to have birth control coverage, etc etc ), high premiums, high deductibles, putting more costs on the insured.
In the scheme Medicare for All, the questions for all those demokraps is this - since the federal government is the sole provider (i.e. there is no one to shift government costs in the market), how much is this really going to cost, and who is going to pay, and who do the tort lawyers sue when the government screws up?
How’s Sanctuary City status working out for ya’, Philadelphia......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-In-PqrChY&feature=youtu.be
We followed a tatted up salvatruchan who was provided an interpreter so he could lecture Kenney and the black guy on why the border should be erased.
Kenney sat there nodding like a bobble head doll at the wisdom of the salvatruchan. A few months later he was dancing in the his new office.
Walmart and most stores have loss leaders to get people in the door. These businesses hope that the customers will fillup their shopping cart with many items that are not loss leaders.
Surviving Hospitals can be compared to this. Their customer is Medicare and Medicaid for over 40% of their money, over 50% in many Hospitals.
Surviving Hospitals treat a patient for the one complaint that brought the patient in the door. They also run a series of tests. These tests are allegedly for the benefit of the patient. But in reality they are trying to find products of the Hospital that they can use to fill the shopping cart of the customer, the government.
Patients and patient problmems (real and fantasized) are just products thrown into the shopping cart. Patients are not the customer.
Hospitals who know how to play the game survive. Hospitals who don’t know how to play the game are dead.
Atlas is shrugging.
Whoa, good point!
Can we sue the gubbermint for malpractice?
The state can require a failing business to stay in business even though it can’t pay its bills? How does that work?
Yep, the leaders of the Libs don’t care about solving a problem or if a program works long term. All they want is the issue.
I wonder what the bureaucrats will do when the no longer paid nurses, doctors, janitors, etc. fail to show up ... arrest the parking lot manager?
the FREESH1T Army strikes again!!! everything is FREE till a place closes...
i don't think this is a Medicare issue, most Medicare subscribers aren't Trauma admits unless it's a car wreck or something, this more is a Medicaid/no insurance at all thug issue...
Philly ping!
And yet the PA and Philly governments demand they stay open and continue to treat people who do not pay.
Short term, they might stay in business. Long term, the system will not be able to pay good money for doctors and nurses, and young people will study other professions.
Hospitals in urban areas are the demonstrators for the dysfunction of socialism.
Cash-only membership-based hospitals are the only possible facility-based solution.
They must have the fortitude to turn away sick and injured people who are not members.
From the socialist governments perspective, these must be outlawed.
There is no middle ground possible.
If you’re not a member of a private hospital you will die in the public hospital waiting room (assuming you can fit into the waiting room) when sick or injured - unless through random chance a public hospital, if one is even available, manages to keep you alive.
The news reporting writes itself. A sick illegal immigrant child dies at the door of a private hospital and will be extensively reported using a guided checklist of guilt, self-loathing, and class envy. The 3 dozen who die in the public hospital waiting room at the same time will go unreported.
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