Posted on 07/08/2019 10:58:23 AM PDT by faucetman
Mixed bag, as always. The outliers make history. Some of the turf battle was between eccesiastical/equity courts and common law. Choice of venue determined the outcome - same is true today, just by different names.
Tough to blame the powerful for fighting to hang on to their power. Human nature dictates they will do so.
You think so? Where were the riots when little Alfie died/was murdered? The U.K. jails people for flipping the bird at traffic cameras, or tweeting things they don’t agree with. For months.
Magna Carta is a charter of rights
It’s almost impossible for that not to happen at this point.
British police will be blocking the U.S. Embassy entrance a la KGB.
Only a helicopter rescue might succeed. MI5 goons are probably shadowing Tommy right now.
I don’t know. All I know is that I used to reasonably expect the judiciary to uphold the law against the British government’s attempts to impose its whim on the people. Now I don’t. The judge wilfully bent the interpretation of the law to an extreme degree to find him guilty in a way nobody genuinely impartial could possibly have done.
Strictly a post-Maggie thing, along with a flood of girl-judges--who seem to be a crop of very obedient members of the Progressive hive.
Sorry, freedom died a long time ago in fascist Britain. When they refuse to let dying children leave the country for medical help and things like that, freedom is long gone.
Tommy Robinson didn’t even *do* anything.
He simply reported to the public what others had been doing.
First Amendment?
UK doesn’t have a Constitution or Bill of Rights.
Patriots, Traitors and Invaders
(2018)
Here’s a tale of Quisling traitors,
Sold their country to invaders.
The first was shot in forty-five,
But many more are still alive.
When was there a referendum,
Ere our traitors thought to send ’em?
Rivers of blood would be the cost,
Enoch was right, now Britain’s lost.
Bombs and bullets, acid and knives,
Vans on pavements destroying lives.
Showing rape gangs now forbidden,
Poor old Tommy he’s imprisoned,
While to jihadis flats are given,
And ISIS killers all forgiven.
Hitler’s Nazis could not manage,
What our Quislings done in damage!
If Churchill were around today,
I’m confident that he would say:
“In older and more modern time,
Treason must be capital crime,
Patriots must be supported,
And invaders all deported,
Till our girls walk unmolested,
After British metal’s tested.”
Will saving Blighty come too late,
Before the Saxon learns to hate?
If saving’s coming, it can’t wait,
Or Islam will be Britain’s fate.
(Yes, metal. Mettle without metal is futile resistance.)
Understood. My point was that the US BoR as expressed in the constitution is not unique as a matter of principle of check against the ruler, and Magna Carta makes our BoR "not first" either
the Bill of Rights (not to mention the constitution it is part of) is unique among governments.
Then there is The Constitution of the Russian Federation, Rights and Freedoms of Man and Citizen
Now, if "unique" means to delve into the exact words used, yes, of course. Any string of 50 or more words is apt to be unique to the author.
You would think people would be rioting now.
Sure....but how many Brits REALLY give a crap? Could be wrong, but seems only a handful.
Trump is mad at UK. Because of its ambassador. No one is ever going to call the UK government smart ever again.
I heard he has applied for asylum with the united states... this was on a posting board with no reference to where the info came from so there is a good chance it is made up... but if he did apply for political asylum I hope we give it to him
It died in Rotherham a long time ago.
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A sizable number do, but unfortunately, the stranglehold of the MSM, and now social media companies censoring dissident anti-left voices means that most people still believe the horseshit being said about him. They couldn’t have done this to him if they hadn’t taken down his social media first. He had a reach of millions. The MSM is controlling coverage of him so that he will simply disappear down a memory hole. This is why it is so important for Trump to get a grip on Silicon Valley now, and damn any arguments about ‘private platforms being able to do what they want’.
Good points.
My issue is the irony of “justice” in the UK, or the lack of it, ever.
Our founders were highly aware that the rule of law, might makes right, etc. needed to be secondary to the concept of justice. It is the very first principle and goal of our Constitution:
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice ..............do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States.......
No other government has ever done that and it is the source of our strength.
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