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It Sure Looks Like Jeffrey Epstein Was a Spy—But Whose?
Observer ^ | July 10 2019 | John R. Schindler

Posted on 07/10/2019 8:46:47 PM PDT by rintintin

In terms of scandals, the sordid saga of Jeffrey Epstein has it all. Mysterious gaudy fortunes. Jet-setting debauchery. Lots of pretty girls—including very young girls. Sex and more sex, not necessarily legal or consensual. Add a battalion of VIPs, including billionaires, A-list celebrities, royalty and no less than two American presidents.

The only thing missing was espionage… and it’s not missing anymore.

(Excerpt) Read more at observer.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: 2percentclub; cia; epstein; ghislainemaxwell; greatestallyhahaha; israel; israeli; kgb; mossad; russia
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To: 867V309

No way you could make enough money at blackmail to pay his bills.

An air carrier size jet modified to be a fun house on wings, buy and maintain an island complete with a palace, a NY residence worth millions, a house in FL and another somewhere that I can’t remember.
And the women who worked for him....all high maintenance women.

His living expenses alone were probably over one million a year. Plus paying the top level women. Four women at 250 each would amount to another million per year.

Someone with really deep pockets financed him. My suspicion is that only a government could afford him.

Maybe Soros, maybe a Saudi but more than likely one or more governments.

But not to get Trump. To get intelligence from people who thought he was a lot of fun.

And probably to get control of people in positions of power.

We are in more trouble than we thought. And our president is in more danger than we thought.


21 posted on 07/10/2019 10:00:25 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There isTha no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: rintintin
Rumors and suspicion are proof of only rumors and suspicion. As far as I can tell, no one was pushing the Epstein was a Israeli agent at the time of his first trial.

What has happened is that Federal Prosecutors in New York think they have a better case than last time. If Epstein goes down, so could a lot of other people. Claiming now he's a Israeli or other agent is a red herring.

22 posted on 07/10/2019 10:01:05 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: gaijin

Means nothing. Could have been any state actor who recognized his ability to blackmail important people.

Use logic, not association.


23 posted on 07/10/2019 10:05:06 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: rintintin

while anything is possible, Mossad would seem a relatively unlikely candidate as it had almost nothing to gain...

my bets are on UK (which has a long tradition of such affairs) plus maybe Russia (in an effort to keep HilLIARy under some sort of containment from inflicting any further damage).. but even Russia seems a bit doubtful to me.
The Muslim dictators would have had the most to gain, but I am unsure whether they would have hired this fellow with a Jewish sounding name... on the other hand, YES... they WOULD INDEED.... they hire many Christians and Jews (who they preach to murder or subjugate) when it serves their interests.... they are evil as Hell but not impractical about it.....

or .. Communist China? they definitely want 3 things from Washington politicians.....continuation of their kind of trading profits, our military and technological secrets, and access to our colleges, tech factories (SillyCon Valley especially!)....having some leverage against key WashDC political hacks is extremely important to Red China

but its all a guess


24 posted on 07/10/2019 10:09:12 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: TigerClaws
“But where did his money come from?”

There was an earlier post here on FR that listed a bunch of Jewish billionaires starting with the Bronfmans from Canada ( Seagram's booze), but the article listed a dozen or more super rich Jews who had “given” Epstein their money “to manage". It's going to be interesting to say the least as the names actually come out.

25 posted on 07/10/2019 10:10:27 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: old curmudgeon


No way you could make enough money at blackmail to pay his bills.

this depends totally upon whom you blackmail.

I appreciate your paranoia, but I think "The simplest solution is most likely the right one."

we know the perv had cameras everywhere. why would he do that? self incrimination?     NO!    blackmail.


26 posted on 07/10/2019 10:14:29 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: rintintin

Same with Heidi Fleiss which is why she got such a lite sentence. Nothing will come of this if their clientele isn’t convicted.


27 posted on 07/10/2019 10:17:17 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: TigerClaws

Robert Maxwell wasn’t an Israeli superspy. His help to Israel was critical at its birth, and for that he was honored. He was born in Czechoslovakia, and he was instrumental in supplying Israel with significant amounts of weaponry from that country during Israel’s war of independence.


28 posted on 07/10/2019 10:20:04 PM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: 867V309

Paranoia? You can’t be serious. That is simply how the world works. Deep state agencies (of any country you choose) are set up to black mail individuals in powerful position. It’s what they do.


29 posted on 07/10/2019 10:22:36 PM PDT by JGT
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Paranoia? You can’t be serious.

it's paranoia if it doesn't make sense.

Deep state agencies (of any country you choose) are set up to black mail individuals in powerful position. It’s what they do.

if this is a "Deep state" operation, why is it trashing "Deep state" ie. dumbocraps   more than President Trump?     makes no sense


30 posted on 07/10/2019 10:33:30 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 867V309
“it's paranoia if it doesn't make sense.”

So anything that doesn't make sense to you is by definition paranoia? Your logic is absurd.

“if this is a “Deep state” operation, why is it trashing “Deep state” ie. dumbocraps more than President Trump? makes no sense”

I never said that the current prosecution is a deep state operation. I said that deep state agencies utilize black-mail as their primary modus operandi. Most likely Epstein was an “asset” at one time, perhaps he has out-used his usefulness to whomever he was providing intel to. My primary point is that ALL deep states are created literally for the purpose of black-mail. I find it shocking that so many on here aren't aware of this basic fact.

31 posted on 07/10/2019 10:48:02 PM PDT by JGT
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To: JGT


So anything that doesn't make sense to you is by definition paranoia?

you said that, not me.

I never said that the current prosecution is a deep state operation

but you used that in your argument:    It’s what they do.


32 posted on 07/10/2019 10:57:29 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 867V309
Lol, I know this must be difficult for you. Please carefully re-read my previous post. If it still doesn't make sense to you after a second or even a third reading, then I'm afraid I can't help you.
33 posted on 07/10/2019 11:01:24 PM PDT by JGT
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To: JGT


Lol,

what are you, 8?


34 posted on 07/10/2019 11:05:08 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 867V309
I will try one last time, but you've got to read what I am posting. Now follow me on this:

Post #29, I said, “Deep state agencies (of any country you choose) are set up to black mail individuals in powerful position. It’s what they do.”

Post #30, You said “if this is a “Deep state” operation, why is it trashing “Deep state” ie. dumbocraps more than President Trump? makes no sense”

Post #31, I said “I never said that the current prosecution is a deep state operation. I said that deep state agencies utilize black-mail as their primary modus operandi. Most likely Epstein was an “asset” at one time, perhaps he has out-used his usefulness to whomever he was providing intel to. My primary point is that ALL deep states are created literally for the purpose of black-mail. I find it shocking that so many on here aren't aware of this basic fact.”

Post #32, You said, “but you used that in your argument: It’s what they do.”

Now, pay attention to this part because this is important. Deep-states do make use of black-mail, it IS what they do. But that does not mean that everything that occurs with someone who may have been at one time an “asset” is being used as part of a deep state operation. The example I stated of such is Epstein's current trial in NY. Saying that black mail is what deep state entities do is not the same as saying a prior asset will always and forever be engaged in a deep state operation. Assets come and go all the time; they are used until they are no longer needed and then discarded. If this still does not make sense to you, then again, I'm afraid I can't help you.

35 posted on 07/10/2019 11:25:57 PM PDT by JGT
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To: JGT


I will try one last time,

thanks. I only converse with adults.


36 posted on 07/10/2019 11:28:18 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 867V309

You didn’t have the courage to even read it, the one thing I asked you to do.


37 posted on 07/10/2019 11:32:50 PM PDT by JGT
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To: JGT


You didn’t have the courage to even read it, the one thing I asked you to do.

grow up

not everyone cares what you think.


38 posted on 07/10/2019 11:54:22 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 867V309

I’m only addressing you, no one else on here. If you can’t read what I wrote and at least try to point out the logical fallacies, then simply move on. It’s not about “everyone caring what I think.” You are the only person on this forum I am addressing.


39 posted on 07/10/2019 11:59:40 PM PDT by JGT
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To: JGT


I’m only addressing you...

my bad.

not everyone I don't cares what you think.


40 posted on 07/11/2019 12:05:21 AM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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