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To: grumpygresh

As a young intern I learned from a Chief Resident that you never prescribe narcotics for chronic pain. It was a lesson that served me well for my 35 years. At the same time I will say that mankind has been “getting high” since the beginning. There have been found canabis incense burners that are 5,000 years old, IIRC. What has happened is that our laws have restricted a number of euphoriants to transfer only on the order of one of us, physicians. So because of these laws my experience was some days up; to a third of the patients one dealt with were simply seeking to get high. Which was a total waste of time for both of us.
There is no one currently unable to find these drugs if they desire them. So our laws are accomplishing nothing but further driving up the cost of real healthcare. Further keeping the profits from the sale high. What is needed is a strong FDA to insure quality but keep the doctors out of the getting high business. If people want these drugs let them have them. The War on Drugs has been an unmitigated disaster from Day #1 (Harry Anslinger).


13 posted on 07/13/2019 6:29:54 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute
"... up; to a third of the patients one dealt with were simply seeking to get high."

No doubt. But making the other two-thirds suffer is just plain wrong. And I agree, the WOD has caused a thousand times more problems that it has solved, or even reasonably addressed.
18 posted on 07/13/2019 6:41:31 AM PDT by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept.)
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To: wastoute

CATO has that pegged at 4 decades of failure. Newest bright idea is Blister packs. JOKE, when Predisone when to them they went to $50. Loose ones are $4.00.

I lost both my parents to Lung Cancer, thankfully far enough back they had all the pain meds they needed.

My Niece has the worse form of Lupus, Systemic Lupus Erythematosus she’s dying, Lungs, Kidney’s Liver are all trash; after this last ER trip from the Lung docs office to the Hospital Downstairs via wheel chair, it took 3 months to get her into a Cardio. Now this Guy is a real winner I DON’T TREAT BP. Yet he ordered a Echo and a Chem stress test. Her Renal Arteries are clogged with plaque, when she gets these 2 test run they will show the cardio arteries are too. He told her to go back to her Rhuemy or Kidney doc to treat her BP, the family doc had her Under dosed. Because she is on Placquenil she is Labeled a DRUG SEEKER. It is a Freaking Anti-Malarial drug that destroy’s kidneys.

Her 14 yr old son has the beginnings of Duchenes MD. What my sister doesn’t understand is she is going to have to deal with his MD along with his grandfather’s as his mom won’t live to 40. He is NOT under treatment either.

Rural med is horrid. Both hubby and I see same Cardio here in Memphis and HE prescribes our BP meds. NOT any other doc. He wants complete control of his Specialty. Last time the Internist ran his EKG he had a Cow. Because he couldn’t get the test results. So I had to have a Cardio Ultrasound, just to get around the Dup testing Medicare has gone to.

Computers don’t talk to each other even in the same health system. Both were Methodist.


28 posted on 07/13/2019 7:12:49 AM PDT by GailA (Intractable pain, also known as Intractable Pain Disease or IP, is a severe, constant pain that is n)
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To: wastoute
Title 21 United States Code (USC) Controlled Substances Act SUBCHAPTER I — CONTROL AND ENFORCEMENT Part C — Registration of Manufacturers, Distributors, and Dispensers of Controlled Substances §823. Registration requirements .... (H)(i) .... Nothing in such regulations or practice guidelines may authorize any Federal official or employee to exercise supervision or control over the practice of medicine or the manner in which medical services are provided. Laws are interpreted in court on specific cases and compared to case law if applicable. I don't know the strategies and tactics the defense attorney used in court when defending doctors from opioid "crimes" e.g. Sometimes jurors and judges are swayed by the emotional content of arguments and proceedings in court, even though they're not supposed to be so biased. Great job Gail!! On Saturday, June 15, 2019, 8:05:01 AM CDT, Richard Lawhern wrote: Friends and Associates: One of our mailing list folks recently reminded me of the following quotation from Federal law. For any of you who have access to legal counsel, I would be very interested to learn whether this provision of the US Code has recently been applied in case law -- and particularly whether it has ever been tested against the invasive behavior of DEA. Any takers? ======================================== U.S. Code › Title 42 › Chapter 7 › Subchapter XVIII › § 1395 42 U.S. Code § 1395 – Prohibition against any Federal interference US Code Notes Authorities (CFR) Nothing in this subchapter shall be construed to authorize any Federal officer or employee to exercise any supervision or control over the practice of medicine or the manner in which medical services are provided, or over the selection, tenure, or compensation of any officer or employee of any institution, agency, or person providing health services; or to exercise any supervision or control over the administration or operation of any such institution, agency, or person. (Aug. 14, 1935, ch. 531, title XVIII, § 1801, as added Pub. L. 89–97, title I, § 102(a), July 30, 1965, 79 Stat. 291. ========================================== Discovery Credit Gail Honadle. Regards and best, Red Richard A "Red" Lawhern PhD Twitter: @Lawhern1 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/red.lawhern My Publications: http://www.face-facts.org/Lawhern Personal Website: http://www.lawhern.org ...
37 posted on 07/13/2019 7:43:11 AM PDT by GailA (Intractable pain, also known as Intractable Pain Disease or IP, is a severe, constant pain that is n)
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To: wastoute

My entire spine is Degenerative, Stenosis, bulges, spurs, herniation, stress fracture, annular tears, Profusions, and collapsed dics and calcified Lumbar, It is NOT operable, it will crumble due to the OP severity caused by the Nerve Blocs, Predisone, and Steroids, Predisone is the only 1 that actually works on Hives. Rest are Side effects, depending on if it is Celestone which is a 2 week horrid reaction, to Medrol based which is 4 days. NO pain relieve. Back doc got from C 3 down to S 1 and the tail bone. I furniture walk in the house. Use electric cart at the grocery store, other than going to the doctors and grocery store I’m house bound. And at 71 I have frequent FALLS. That is WHAT Your ATTITUDE condemns me to. I do all I can to maintain weight, and function, it’s taken me 2 yrs to partially rehab my hand from the Frozen thumb with a Mallet Index finger, so NO fine motor skills in my dominate R. Hand. Hate to think what you view of Autoimmune is?


113 posted on 07/13/2019 5:41:52 PM PDT by GailA (Intractable pain, also known as Intractable Pain Disease or IP, is a severe, constant pain that is n)
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To: wastoute
our laws are accomplishing nothing but further driving up the cost of real healthcare. Further keeping the profits from the sale high. What is needed is a strong FDA to insure quality but keep the doctors out of the getting high business. If people want these drugs let them have them. The War on Drugs has been an unmitigated disaster from Day #1 (Harry Anslinger).

Amen!

119 posted on 07/14/2019 5:48:26 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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