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Our Country has lost, stupidly, Trillions of Dollars with China over many years.
POTUS via Twitter ^ | 08/23/19 | Donald J. Trump

Posted on 08/23/2019 9:09:46 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: DoodleDawg

Right, but they should ‘start looking’. Trump is pissed off and so are most Patriots.


21 posted on 08/23/2019 9:33:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DoodleDawg; central_va
Well fvcking duh; what a dunce. Don't you get anything, or are you autistically literal?

As for Trump, either he's been reading FR threads and following the logic, or some of us are thinking in tune with where he's going with this. To wit:

He's going to link illegal immigration to China. By doing so, support for open borders, foreign invasion and population replacement will finally be linked to our greatest adversary.

As a bonus point, any mention of Russia can also be linked to (implicit) support for China since it's obviously a distraction and diversion play designed to shift attention from what's really going down.

I can even almost feel myself inching towards supporting Trump again if he'd finally put in all together in terms of defeating the deep state. He lets them off the hook, all of his actions are only good for 4-5 years. Enough for Trump to get re-elected, but what about survival of the republic?

22 posted on 08/23/2019 9:35:05 AM PDT by semantic
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To: rlmorel
But, but, but what about my 401K?


23 posted on 08/23/2019 9:35:12 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rlmorel

Message received and agree 100%


24 posted on 08/23/2019 9:37:49 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: central_va

I have to be willing to take that hit, and more, for future Americans. Unfortunately, there are far too many who wouldn’t.


25 posted on 08/23/2019 9:38:10 AM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Well if we go to war with China, then yes he can do that as Commander in Chief.


26 posted on 08/23/2019 9:38:57 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: central_va
Right, but they should ‘start looking’.

Haven't you been reading the news? They have 'started looking'. To Vietnam and Philippines and Thailand and Indonesia...

27 posted on 08/23/2019 9:39:25 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 1Old Pro

China has obviously been funding the invasion of their disgusting people to the U.S. for years. How else do you account for ragamuffin looking Chinese bearing shopping bags of hundreds of thousands of dollars in greenbacks when they buy a home now? I worked hard all my life and I can’t pay cash for a home. These bummy-looking Chinese, who don’t even speak English, are buying up homes around here like crazy. Once ensconced in the home, they then continue to act like a peasant in the fields, lining up at bottle redemption machines with huge multiple bags of soda bottles. Do not tell me they got a quarter million dollars to buy a condo that way. They bring along from the old country such charming habits of storing soda bottles they stole out of recycling bins of houses in the window well of apartment buildings, drawing flies; hanging rugs out to dry on the shrubs in peoples’ gardens; hanging stinking fish on the bushes in peoples’ gardens to dry; hugging trees and doing other queer things in public parks, etc. Wherever one moves in, the invading horde will follow and leave the neighborhood a ghetto.


28 posted on 08/23/2019 9:40:17 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: semantic

Sorry, I read your post and I don’t feel like the dunce.


29 posted on 08/23/2019 9:41:39 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

[LOL! Getting a bit carried away there. I don’t think he can do that. ]


While he can’t literally do it, he can raise tariffs to the uncle point, which is probably whatever he needs to do in order to stay ahead of Chinese devaluations. They bring the exchange rate to 10 yuan to the dollar - he puts on 100% tariffs.


30 posted on 08/23/2019 9:48:12 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei
While he can’t literally do it, he can raise tariffs to the uncle point, which is probably whatever he needs to do in order to stay ahead of Chinese devaluations. They bring the exchange rate to 10 yuan to the dollar - he puts on 100% tariffs.

It'll get there eventually. Trade wars are no different from any other war. One side's actions are matched by the other side, which makes the first side respond and the second side also respond in kind. This shows no signs of ending any time soon.

31 posted on 08/23/2019 9:50:57 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Our ruling classes and the banks have deliberately transferred (and are transferring) your inherited wealth, to foreigners and enemies.

DC and the banks did this here too, using your debt to build their anti-We-The-People empires.


32 posted on 08/23/2019 9:53:47 AM PDT by veracious (UN=OIC=Islam ; USAgov may be radically changed, just amend USConstitution)
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To: setter

Absolutely

They in prison and murder their own people and steal their organs

what else needs to be said?

On all of these evil regimes around the world , pressure is the only thing that’s going to work


33 posted on 08/23/2019 9:54:49 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: DoodleDawg

I would prefer and across the board 20% import tariff but I will take fukking with the ChiComs as a temporary consolation - for now. This plays well in Peoria.


34 posted on 08/23/2019 9:57:41 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DoodleDawg

[It’ll get there eventually. Trade wars are no different from any other war. One side’s actions are matched by the other side, which makes the first side respond and the second side also respond in kind. This shows no signs of ending any time soon. ]


At some point, serial devaluations will lead to massive capital flight from China, which is not something that a country with 3 to 1 total debt to GDP ratio needs right now. Especially when it is still rapidly accumulating debt to prop up GDP growth. The Chinese bubble’s implosion will dwarf the mid-90’s Asian crisis.


35 posted on 08/23/2019 9:58:25 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Truthoverpower

“On all of these evil regimes around the world , pressure is the only thing that’s going to work”

Other countries are equally hurt by China but are just sitting back. Seeing how this is going to end before they get involved I guess.


36 posted on 08/23/2019 10:00:52 AM PDT by setter
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To: central_va

Nixon did start it. But thats really just starting a dialogue. You can’t really blame the exchange of cute animals with the past 30 years of Chamberlain style appeasement. As some point, you have to blame those who actually made billions of dollars on the China lobbyist corruption including the companies, and politicians like Biden who have family making money while Joe creates the deals.


37 posted on 08/23/2019 10:05:01 AM PDT by poinq
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To: Zhang Fei
Yuan devaluations? How about the US dollar? Have you been paying attention to Trump attacking the Fed?

I'm wondering if Trump has always known about the Fed*, or whether it's taken 2-3 years to get up to speed. Either way, by linking the Fed, China, deep state and open border/foreign invasion, I'm slowing warming to the thought that Trump might actually be series (lol).

* As I have written many times before, the US republic 1.0 died during the period of 1910-1913. This was the era of a series of lethal blows, including creation of the Fed, and the 16th & 17th amendments.

It would be an amazing accomplishment to restore money control to the US government, and strike a fatal blow to the globalists' chief financial weapon. Remove that, and then go after media. Their support for communist China and open borders represents the pincer movement of real people/goods following the financial/media 'softening up' campaign.

38 posted on 08/23/2019 10:15:49 AM PDT by semantic
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To: semantic

This should be the lede on every media station once Trump discusses the tariff situation. And the media should actually come to Trump’s side saying that he is doing what he can, despite congresses incompetence to get this done.

But no.... The media will claim more American jobs will be lost and that companies will suffer from higher costs.


39 posted on 08/23/2019 10:23:47 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Trump is President and CEO of America, Inc.)
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The media is literally the mouthpiece of the enemy. It is owned by the same globalist families & organizations that own the Fed.

People often mention that media control is consolidated among 6-7 corporations, but no one ever questions/wonders who owns the corps?

Take a look, and while the usual large pension and fund groups are present, there's a whole host of shielded investment trusts that control the actual companies. These trusts in turn are linked with thousands of inter-linked groups domiciled offshore for both tax and privacy purposes.

The USA has been weathering a unified attack for decades; it's a true testament that it's still standing (barely). It's a four-legged prong: Fed, media, China & invasion. The weak points are the Fed & China; media and invasion are dependent. The Fed is hard to attack head on, so Trump is going after the treasury buyer (China) to squeeze them until they weaken/break the Fed.

In a lot of ways, this long drawn out battle is like Gettysburg. If Trump can successfully knock out a leg, then the tide might actually be turning. Could you imagine finally being on offense by accusing any Fed/Media/invasion supporter of collaboration with China?

40 posted on 08/23/2019 10:32:52 AM PDT by semantic
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