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Crime fell near pot shops after marijuana was fully legalized, Colorado study shows
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | Sep 15, 2019 | Tom Schuba

Posted on 09/15/2019 11:51:37 AM PDT by NobleFree

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To: TexasGator
The good gun owner is an asset to society.

The good Stoner is a debit to society.

Collectivist twaddle. Guns and drugs are simply none of government's business - and the Constitution gives the fderal government no jurisdiction over either.

21 posted on 09/15/2019 12:36:40 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree; All
Lots of Marijuana shops have armed security.

No too surprising that crime would drop with more armed security in the area...

22 posted on 09/15/2019 12:37:35 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: NobleFree

“Crime dropping locally appears to be consistent with an increased police or private security presence in or around pot shops.”

More cops, less crime.


23 posted on 09/15/2019 12:38:54 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: mountainlion

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/pot-fuels-surge-drugged-driving-deaths-n22991

With the pot vaping and the drugged driving, I think the dea is going to set up the dispensaries once the industry grows a bit more and the government media puts out stories against pot. You know, most banks won’t take the dispensaries’ cash. It’s still a schedule 1 drug federally.

I’m just making an observation. IMO, each state should decide on drugs, not feds. Like healthcare, the States should have sovereignty here. But with respect to firearms, if it’s in the BOR, the states have to respect individual rights, so for example a state can’t pass a law against freedom of speech as well.


24 posted on 09/15/2019 12:39:37 PM PDT by grumpygresh
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To: JoeRed
Denver decriminalized public defacation.

False. "The law didn't decriminalize public urination or unauthorized camping. You can still serve up to 60 days in jail for both if you're caught.

"The difference is you previously faced up to a year in jail and a fine of up to $999." - https://www.9news.com/article/news/verify/verify-no-denver-didnt-legalize-public-urination/73-503294787

25 posted on 09/15/2019 12:39:46 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: grumpygresh
each state should decide on drugs, not feds. Like healthcare, the States should have sovereignty here.

That's what the U.S. Constitution demands.

26 posted on 09/15/2019 12:41:29 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: grumpygresh

From your link:

“marijuana can be detected in the blood for one week after consumption, perhaps leading chronic consumers to be wrongly arrested, critics of the law assert.

“A separate study — also based on FARS data — found that in states where medical marijuana was approved, traffic fatalities decrease by as much as 11 percent during the first year after legalization. Written by researchers at the University of Colorado, Oregon and Montana State University, the paper was published in 2013 in the Journal of Law & Economics.

“Those authors theorized pot, for some, becomes a substitute for alcohol. They cited a recent, 13-percent drop in drunk-driving deaths in states where medical marijuana is legal.”


27 posted on 09/15/2019 12:43:35 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: pburgh01

nothing good has come from the use of those substances, legalizing them won’t change that. However, let us agree to disagree about this matter.


28 posted on 09/15/2019 12:44:24 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: NobleFree
Studies like global warming and drug use are full of opinion and half baked theories. Colorado Highway Patrol and CDOT statistics are the data without political bias.
29 posted on 09/15/2019 12:45:59 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: NobleFree

“Collectivist twaddle. “

Which do you not agree with?


30 posted on 09/15/2019 12:46:38 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: mountainlion
Colorado Highway Patrol and CDOT statistics

Feel free to post links.

are the data without political bias.

So cops never speak out against legalization?

31 posted on 09/15/2019 12:50:42 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: txnativegop
nothing good has come from the use of those substances, legalizing them won’t change that.

What legalization will change is the monopolization of the market by violent criminals.

32 posted on 09/15/2019 12:51:54 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: aquila48

Everyone was too high to commit any crimes :)

Actually, I’ve never met a stoner who was a criminal in any real sense of the word, except using pot, which is illegal.

Heroin junkies and meth heads and crack addicts will steal and worse to get money for their drugs.

Stoners might offer to mow the lawn for 30 bucks :)


33 posted on 09/15/2019 12:52:24 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: TexasGator
I do not agree with focusing on "benefits to society" on a pro-Constitution pro-limited-government web forum.
34 posted on 09/15/2019 12:53:25 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: pburgh01

I agree with you 100%.


35 posted on 09/15/2019 12:53:41 PM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: dp0622
Heroin junkies and meth heads and crack addicts will steal and worse to get money for their drugs.

Alkies would too - only because their drug is legal, they can scrape together the purchase price without stealing etc. Just sayin' ...

36 posted on 09/15/2019 12:55:16 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Or result in those violent criminals coercing lawful producers to give them a stake in the legal business. Every organized crime group in the country has always done this? why would it be any different now?


37 posted on 09/15/2019 12:57:27 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: NobleFree

Oh, that’s right. They invented a new lower class charge to protect illegals from deportation.


38 posted on 09/15/2019 12:57:28 PM PDT by JoeRed
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To: NobleFree; TheStickman; dainbramaged; beaversmom; T-Bone Texan; dljordan; Mama Shawna

Thank You for posting NobleFree.


39 posted on 09/15/2019 12:59:15 PM PDT by KC_Lion
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To: txnativegop
Or result in those violent criminals coercing lawful producers to give them a stake in the legal business.

Could happen - but there's no reason to think it could happen enough to offset the loss of market.

40 posted on 09/15/2019 12:59:34 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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