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To: grumpygresh
Is it just me or is it typical for an adult to take the attitude "hey,there can be mountains of free heroin,cocaine,fentanyl or meth but I'm not even slightly interested" ?

I don't hold drug companies responsible. I hold the junkies...and maybe doctors...responsible.These lawsuits are solely meant to line the pockets of politicians and lawyers.

7 posted on 09/16/2019 7:30:03 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yep, what about the docs AND hospitals?

Are they being blamed/held acountable, too?

What about personal responsibility/choices? Like you said....junkies.

Agree 100% w/your post.


10 posted on 09/16/2019 7:36:41 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Surveys of heroin addicts actually show that despite increased production of opioids, the number of addicts starting out with prescription opiates decreased from 2005 - 2015. So the increasing availability of prescriptions did not result in heroin addiction.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28582659/

RESULTS: In 2005, only 8.7% of opioid initiators started with heroin, but this sharply increased to 33.3% (p<0.001) in 2015, with no evidence of stabilization. The use of commonly prescribed opioids, oxycodone and hydrocodone, dropped from 42.4% and 42.3% of opioid initiators, respectively, to 24.1% and 27.8% RESUuLTS: In 2005, only 8.7% of opioid initiators started with heroin, but this sharply increased to 33.3% (p<0.001) in 2015, with no evidence of stabilization. The use of commonly prescribed opioids, oxycodone and hydrocodone, dropped from 42.4% and 42.3% of opioid initiators, respectively, to 24.1% and 27.8% in 2015, such that heroin as an initiating opioid was now more frequently endorsed than prescription opioid analgesics.


11 posted on 09/16/2019 7:37:28 PM PDT by grumpygresh
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To: Gay State Conservative
I don't hold drug companies responsible. I hold the junkies...and maybe doctors...responsible.These lawsuits are solely meant to line the pockets of politicians and lawyers.

Exactly. If you leave it to the lawyers then all pharmaceutical manufacturers are going to be sued. Then, who'll want to be in the drug development business? At that point, we all lose.

16 posted on 09/16/2019 8:16:08 PM PDT by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

[[and maybe doctors]]

Some doctors- most prescribed responsibly- since opioids have less than a 2% addiction rate- the opioid crisis is NOT due to doctors- it’s due to junkies getting black market opioids- Now- there were some unscrupulous doctors who were indeed ‘pill farms’ prescribing to known junkies- but the vast majority of doctors did not- I don’t blame the doctors one bit- (with hte exception of the pill farmers)- Because again, prescriptions, when taken as ordered, have less than a 2% addiction rate- that has been proven-


19 posted on 09/16/2019 8:37:32 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Gay State Conservative
You know the great majority of people that need pain medication, like myself are patients, not addicts. Booze kills far more people and does more harm to the human body then any prescription medication ever could and I don't see anyone clamoring for a return of the 18th. Amendment. Christ Almighty I'd sometime love to take one these ''drug warriors'' by the throat and throttle the crap out of them.
22 posted on 09/16/2019 9:16:18 PM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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