Posted on 10/08/2019 6:33:33 AM PDT by grumpygresh
The continuing exodus of healthcare providers out of pain management is especially obnoxious in light of the fact that no less an authority than the American Medical Association has repudiated the central logic of the 2016 CDC Guidelines, used widely as an excuse for restricting patient access. We must also recognize that America’s opioid and suicide crises are much larger than just prescribing or even street drugs. The factors which cause people to be increasingly vulnerable to addiction and suicide are largely socio-economic.
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If you’ve ever needed them, you know what I mean.
Yup. Morphine saved my life after my pancreas exploded (it's far more painful than it sounds), that being said, it's too wonderful, it's warm, it's fuzzy, it's a mother's kiss, a lover's embrace.
I got off of it as quickly as I could!
Are you convinced that only Democrats become addicted to opiates?
Dependance and addiction are 2 different things...
If you stopped o your own, you weren’t addicted.
This has happened to me. I have had had back issues for a number of years, and had surgery for it in 2012. Even though I have arthritis issues, I can usually stay pain free tolerable by taking celebrex. However, there are times when the pain gets away from me. Could be I slept wrong or did too much yard work. At those times, I take Tramadol.
Although I have taken Tramadol for years, I do not take it regularly, and when I do, I only take half a pill. My primary doctor has been filling my prescription (which lasts for months if not a year); but the last time I ran out, she said she can no longer prescribe it due to the opioid regulations. So, I returned to my orthopedic doc who had done my back surgery and was was able to get a new prescription from him.
I have not even taken it since getting it refilled, but I could have used it during those weeks when I could not get any.
Thats because only 6% of patients legally prescribed opiates become addicted. That number hasn’t changed since they started using morphine.
Yes
and that’s the reason why so far my collection of “stories” is so lop-sided!
1. I was in a hospital bed and wrapped from my neck to my knees like a mummy and could barely move.
2.The doctors would give a shot of demerol everyday to keep me calm for the first few days. I was going Crazy!!
3. After about 5 days the shakes and sweats stopped and I was no longer addicted for the most part, another 10 days and I went home.
4. When I woke up from surgery, ALL my Real Pain was gone, I only had some stinging on my legs where they skinned me alive to do the grafting, but that wasn’t Real Pain! and had no need for the drugs anymore.
I equate the “opioid crises” with the “firearms crises”. Blaming the inanimate object for the actions of the human are nonsensical.
I have had to take opioids many times due to my surgeries. Sometimes the tylenol and ibuprofen cocktail don’t do it.
Where I think the doctors may fall short is if they do not tell the patient that the pain killer is only to take the edge off, not to totally remove the discomfort.
Everyone has a different level of pain tolerance. I think it needs to be discussed with the physician and the patient has the ultimate responsibility of not over dosing.
Me too-- it stole my mojo.
That's true, but maybe there's another side: I can't help but notice that the epidemic lines up with the flat-line economy during O's tenure.
Optimistic people don't habitually use.
“The factors which cause people to be increasingly vulnerable to addiction and suicide are largely socio-economic.”
I disagree on the “largely” term. Some people are genetically prone to addiction, whether it’s alcohol, opioids or other pleasure stimulants. I’ve had dental and other surgery and been Rx opioids and they didn’t give me a buzz or even much pain relief. I threw them away and just went to Advil or similar over the counter pills. I’m a member of the flower child generation but didn’t do illegal drugs then as I knew the dangers weren’t worth trying them. Cheap wine or beer was enough to get a buzz and I knew when to stop before I got too drunk. I’m middle-class social-economic, my parents and religion taught me right from wrong.
Jesus Christ That’s how
“The factors which cause people to be increasingly vulnerable to addiction and suicide are largely socio-economic.”
I believe that there are many similar factors leading to addiction and suicide, but they are certainly two distinct and not entirely overlapping issues.
THIS!!!
Pain is NOT your enemy, it's your friend that says 'Hey buddy, don't do that or you'll further damage yourself!'. Knowing when it hurts keeps you from tearing stitches and flesh, it helps you keep from over stressing a healing break or sprain. I believe it also directly helps focus the body's healing on the damaged area.
This doesn't mean you need to put up with it SHOUTING at you! A little quiet discomfort suffices, thankyouverymuch...
Thank you for your response!
Yes bored people do stupid things.
However almost ever story started out “So-N-So” had a great job I can’t understand why he/she did this......
Not saying there isn’t any economic component, just hasn’t jumped out in my little non-scientific personal survey.
Also correlates with China’s drug manufactures flooding the market! Easy availability created its own demand!
Opioid Crisis - 65 Articles By Dr. Josh Bloom | American Council on Science and Health
https://www.acsh.org/news/2019/10/07/opioid-crisis-65-articles-dr-josh-bloom-14308
‘I wasn’t referring to the person who posted the article, I was referring to the person who wrote it.’
doesn’t matter; still a stupid, kneejerk response...
You really need to chill out and stop being a Ignorant Kool Aid Drinker.. And do the reading. First you need to learn the meanings of Pain, as there are classes of Pain. Short Term is Acute you don’t need more than Tylenol and Ice Packs to treat, Chronic is a few weeks to a year, this may require up to 1 week on as low as possible Prescription Pain Med and No you won’t become addicted on 1 week of Prescription Pain Meds. Intractable Pain is a Sub Set of Chronic Pain, it can only be treated with a Prescription Narcotic Pain Med. This Sub Set Pain last 365 for Decades, it usually requires daily pain management and up to 150 mme Morphine as it goes into the Cancer pain range. Many can manage with 30 mg of NORCO to reduce the pain level from 10 to 5. Take away the Pain Medication you put these Patients in wheelchairs, bedridden, home bound and on DSSI. Where they once were actually functioning working members of society. They then have heart attacks or commit suicide when the pain becomes to much to bear.
What you are advocating is a TOTAL BAN On Pain Meds, Anesthesia that is necessary for surgeries. Pain Medication is necessary for War Wounded especially if you’ve been hit by a IED and now have a hole in your gut, or a limb blown off. The BITTER NEVER TRUMPER CHRIS CHRISTIE RECOMMENDED BOTH KOLODNY AND REDFIELD, WHO WERE VETTED BY THE TOP RNC TRUMP HATERS. SO ALL THIS COULD BE BLAMED ON TRUMP.
You have Drank the Kool Aid that Redfield, Kolodny and the PROP committee is peddling. So do get a better education and learn this was all a Hoax, Con Job to fund broke cites, counties, and states. Not 1 dime of that $8.5 Billion went to Pain Patients. It went to Street Junkies for Suboxone, clean needles, clean shoot up rooms, with a Narcan Monitor a Liberals Dream Have your Illicit drugs, get treated like kings/queens while real Patients are now treated as Criminals. Every month a $2000 P test to get less medication than you were on fail 1 test then you are totally cut off. Mention you took 2 days of 7.5 Mg NORCO which is 8 pills for a Jaw Re-sculpture, and you maybe facing a P test screening of $60,000 or more as they will test for every blooming legal and illicit drug out there.
The most painful cancers, nerve damage can only be treated with a Prescription Pain Medication. 100,000 people die of Tylenol OD’s a year. All the other OTC’s are GI and Liver, Kidney destruction drugs. Tylenol is meant for TEN DAYS only AT WHAT IS STATED ON THE BOTTLE.
Let me introduce you to Canadacare.
This is Shannon McLeod. Abandoned Patient. No doctor in Canada will touch him. He’s DYING and he just turned 50. He won’t live to see 51. Glace Bay man with incurable condition can’t find a doctor
https://www.capebretonpost.com/news/local/glace-bay-man-with-incurable-condition-cant-find-a-doctor-174052/
Shannon is at stage 3 nearly 4, most don’t go past stage 2. But he is 1 Stubborn Scot, he is also a War Veteran. He has NO control over his body functions.
CDC Researchers State Overdose Death Rates From Prescription Opioids Are Inaccurately High
https://www.cato.org/blog/cdc-researchers-state-overdose-death-rates-prescription-opioids-are-inaccurately-high?fbclid=IwAR3JlZA6RU08tImpHt7T8hmHBvm0eHcqZ9lk_EgGc-YcYNssWIL43pf3roU
The CDC Quietly Admits It Screwed Up Counting Opioid Pills
https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/03/19/cdc-quietly-admits-it-screwed-dishonestly-counting-pills-12717?fbclid=IwAR3LE1QlQOUYV5oFJth7xKppSNQHtFFXD5s8YLa2RLN1Do4nL5lJ_1VOxkU
Pain Management Increasingly Misrepresented
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/use-opioids-pain-management-increasingly-gerald-aronoff/?trackingId=bwdbsZtyn6HiuQPxZUNmKg%3D%3D
A Tale Of Two Treatments
https://www.acsh.org/news/2019/02/09/tale-two-treatments-13802?fbclid=IwAR1fp9zb1Jmnu7H3CjFctWSREzc0djMhBi4mEVjntRv2FJT8E1elmR0paMc
Kolodney https://youtu.be/pILIJ9VyWAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDXCHVGuevg&feature=youtu.be
Kolodny is a Addiction Shrink who pushes Suboxone which is more addictive than Heroin and harder to kick. He also testifies for both Pharma and against Pharma. Made about $500,000 for his J & J testimony. Which will be used to Sue Gun Manufactures out of business. Pandora’s box was opened with that ruling.
Redfield own 37 yr old son OD’d on Heroin/Fentanyl laced Illicit drug, drugs and musicians seem to be a ‘normal’ problem.
New CDC chief Robert Redfield pledges to bring opioid epidemic ‘to its knees’
http://www.onlineathens.com/nationworld/20180329/new-cdc-chief-robert-redfield-pledges-to-bring-opioid-epidemic-to-its-knees
Today’s Drug Abusers Did Not Derive From Yesterday’s Patients | Cato @ Liberty https://www.cato.org/blog/todays-iv-drug-abusers-were-not-yesterdays-patients?fbclid=IwAR2CBv5ukpHSK7L6FbEAg3aOeDTGlGCTEu1B1MXljUfAHVWQr-jpyF12YUM
AP Exclusive: Colleges got millions from opioid maker owners https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news/nation/ap-exclusive-colleges-got-millions-from-opioid-maker-owners/article_e2efe404-8bf0-5d42-83c3-7093b8e4bd06.html
How Christie’s influence on opioid panel landed him an $800K consulting contract https://www.politico.com/states/new-jersey/story/2019/09/26/how-christies-influence-on-opioid-panel-landed-him-an-800k-consulting-contract-1209421
This is one of Dr Lawhern’s latest articles. https://www.acsh.org/news/2019/10/03/suicide-and-opioid-crisis-14316
This is his FB where you can read over 70 articles.
https://www.acsh.org/profile/richard-red-lawhern
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