[MrEdd]

Well gee.
That’s really great of you.

Since nobody else minds it if there is a conviction first either. The whole reason for the conversation at all is because a conviction hasn’t been required for many decades.

[Gay State Conservative]

I said that that it had to be related to a criminal conviction.IOW,the seizure would be part of a “fine”. Many crimes have sentences like “One year in the county jail and/or a $1,000 fine”.