Environmentalists want to turn off incandescent light bulbs for good

CBS "News" ^ | November 5, 2019 | BY IRINA IVANOVA

[ProtectOurFreedom]

“I don’t like using a light bulb I’ll have to put on a hazmat suit to clean up if it breaks”

You are confusing CFL (Compact Fluorescent Light) with LED. CFLs had that problem. LEDs do not.

[GreyFriar]

And the incandescent bulbs provide needed heat in the winter. A couple of cities have discovered that the LED bulbs in their traffic lights do not warm the glass covers and thus do not melt the ice that coats them in winter storms. Ice over the traffic lights means that they are covered so that drivers cannot see them.

I don’t care if folks use incandescent, florescent or LED bulbs, what I object to is the Congress taking the choice away from me by banning them for what it “thinks” is a better choice. Besides, I’m afraid of getting led poisoning from those LED lights. ;)

[Texan5]

That is why I don’t use the CFL bulbs and never have-the LED ones are just a bit expensive and I just happen to like the incandescent ones in some light fixtures-lamps, mostly.

[CatOwner]

A couple of cities have discovered that the LED bulbs in their traffic lights do not warm the glass covers and thus do not melt the ice that coats them in winter storms. Ice over the traffic lights means that they are covered so that drivers cannot see them.

If true, I suspect the solution(s) will be much more expensive than just using incandescent lights. That doesn't even include the initial cost to change the lights out to LED bulbs.

[Parley Baer]

“I hated CFL bulbs. LED bulbs run cool and they last practically forever. I think the technology upgrade is worth it.”

We have virtually all LED bulbs in the house and garage and the outside of the house. Maybe two incandescent bulbs left.

[SisterK]

I prefer incandescent for a lot of uses-plus I don’t like using a light bulb I’ll have to put on a hazmat suit to clean up if it breaks...

Ditto. Nothing but incandescent at my house.
Hopefully I stockpiled enough to last me until Jesus comes back.

[Yo-Yo]

The requirements forcing bulbs to be efficient left out specialty light bulbs, including three-way bulbs, candelabra bulbs and recessed reflector lights of the kind often seen in kitchens. These specialty bulbs, which make up just under half of all light bulbs in America, were supposed to be covered by efficiency rules starting January 1, 2020. But the DOE recently moved to exempt them permanently — a move that would cost Americans an added $12 billion a year in added electricity costs and more frequent purchases of bulbs, according to the Natural Resources Defense Council.

I have installed LEDs in recessed lighting in my kitchen, in the chandelier light over the dining room table, and in the lamps in the living room, in addition to the recessed lighting on the front porch and coach lights flanking the garage door.

I did so to save money, not because some nanny state law required me to do so.

I would still like to see the LED or CFL bulb that can replace the incandescent light in my oven.

[SamAdams76]

I buy mostly LED bulbs too but it's my choice. WhileI find the light not as warm as the old styles, I save a ton of money on electricity. But I don't begrudge those who don't like LED and want to get the other type bulbs. Like you say, let the consumer decide. If nobody buys them anymore, they will come off the shelf and we won't need a government proclamation to make it so.

[ChildOfThe60s]

Yeah, I’ve got a lifetime supply in my closet of 60 watt incandescent bulbs. And what has happened in our house is that any of the hard to reach bulbs which are obviously difficult to replace have been turned over to LEDs since the LEDs got so much more reasonably priced. So maybe 50% of the bulbs in our house are still incandescent. I doubt that I will live long enough to use the rest of my incandescent bulbs.

That said, I bought most of them at 2 for $1 or less at the dollar store. So I probably have 20 bucks worth of bulbs up in my closet now. Big deal.

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

18 States’ Attorney Generals in on this. Where were they when I needed them in the old days? Oh, they are wearing patches with the Hammer & Sickle. Close enough!!

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

One smallpart of a nuclear powr plant, with clean energy, would take care of all these light bulbs and a shitload of electric BBQ grills.

[Revel]

Interesting.

[IgnaciKat]

LEDs are fine because they are cheap to run and last. The kicker is color temperature. There are enough studies to show that BLUE emissions are harmful to your retina (this also includes your LED monitor). So buy LED lamps with a color temp of 2500K (warm white in old florescent terminology).

LED lamps in the A pattern frequently are directional, so they are useless for table lamps where you want downlighting in the base direction.

I replaced the tubes in my kitchen 2x4 troffers with 40w equiv LEDs at 2500K. Simple to wire past the ballasts, no more changes!

LEDs suck for illuminating fine art. Halogens with all their problems will prevail for the spots.

Women may notice flicker with LEDs, as they do with florescent office lighting. Men can sometimes see it in their peripheral vision. Headache is the common complaint. It’s from the alternating current, 60HZ in the US, 50 in many other countries. Since LEDs run on DC, there may someday be LED lamps with capacitors which could be marketed to address this issue.

I replaced HID 400w lamps in my garage. You have to rewire past the ballast. Awesome, instant-on, and only 100w LED consumption. Downside is daylight color (5000K) which may change as more demand comes along. You can scrap the aluminum reflectors for better light dispersal. The loss of 2kw heat is noticeable in the winter.

Lastly I did a 3000 sf store. 85 2x4 drop-ins, 85w LED, 2500K. Studies also show people buy more under warm white lighting. Great savings, especially in the AC load, more than overcome winter heat gain.

No one needs to get on a ladder to change a screw-in lamp, BTW. Get an extension pole that comes with several different heads. Perfect for PARs, R30s, A, and CFLs. I used to put down an old blanket, but I have never dropped a lamp, even a heavy outdoor PAR150. They are sold everywhere.

[justa-hairyape]

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