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1 posted on 11/19/2019 7:34:15 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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https://emerging-europe.com/news/germanys-commitment-to-nord-stream-2-offers-the-netherlands-a-chance-to-take-the-lead-in-the-fight-against-climate-change/


2 posted on 11/19/2019 7:36:17 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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This is one of the tangible reasons Ukraine was a hot issue in the 2016 election.


3 posted on 11/19/2019 7:38:09 PM PST by Fedora
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“Senator Ted Cruz (Republican-Texas), who is among the more outspoken critics of Nord Stream 2”

Lyin’ Ted just can’t shake his Neocon roots.

And It’s EUROPE that wants this pipeline most of all.

There’s no reasonable way to stop it, and its construction is in the best strategic interests of Europe.


4 posted on 11/19/2019 7:40:37 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Drill here, drill now, drill there, pipe it everywhere, the more energy sloshing around the globe the better...and the cheaper.

Ironic though that Europe won’t frack but will allow this.


5 posted on 11/19/2019 7:45:26 PM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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Sanctions? What gives us the right to stop the pipeline?

If Germany wants Russian gas, that’s their business.

OTOH, let’s pull our troops out of Germany and let the Krauts fend for themselves.


6 posted on 11/19/2019 7:46:15 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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Can someone please explain how this pipeline threatens the US? Or is Cruz shilling for higher natural gas prices?

“Time is running out to stop Nord Stream 2,” Cruz said in a statement to RFE/RL in October. “In a few short months, Russia will have completed its natural gas pipeline – putting President [Vladimir] Putin in a position to further expand his military, exploit our European allies, and threaten U.S. energy security.”

Would any company not government sponsored want to own and operate a Ukrainian pipeline?


7 posted on 11/19/2019 7:49:07 PM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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I’ve watched this with interest. I don’t know that we can do much at all to stop it. Europe is totally dependent on Russian natgas. With Germany set to shut down all of its nuclear energy, and now shutting down its wind farms, they will need that much more from Russia.

In addition to this, Israel has the Leviathan project in conjunction with Cyprus. They will be running natgas from offshore Israel into Greece and Italy via Cyprus. This puts some perspective on why Russia is so keen to have a massive military presence in Syria and use of its warm water ports. It is also partly why Turkey has turned hostile. They wanted the pipeline to run through their territory. But also because Turkey, a NATO member, sees itself as a player in the Muslim world more than in Europe - and Europe refused to admit Turkey into any EU political or economic projects. So Turkey also feels pushed away.

It seems to me that while Russia is still a bit of an adversary, all in the west would be better off trying to make them an ally. They are basically European people. NATO has them in check big time. We should be trying to bring Russia closer, not push them into the arms of China. But, Russia still has imperialistic ambitions held over from the USSR days. Working to close that gap, accept them as a competitor and deal them into some of the major international projects on a cooperative basis would, IMO, in the long run work out better than the current situation. But you can thank the Democrats and all the deep state holdovers. They have boxed Trump in from thawing relations in any way.


8 posted on 11/19/2019 7:49:25 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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The original poster does not answer direct challenges to their propaganda.


9 posted on 11/19/2019 7:53:29 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Gee how about sanctioning Germany for buying Russian gas...


10 posted on 11/19/2019 7:53:55 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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Seems like Ukraine picked the WRONG SIDE for our 2016 election. So, tough crap, Russia is sick of them stealing their gas.


11 posted on 11/19/2019 7:56:35 PM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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This is none of our business. We should stay out of it entirely.

L


12 posted on 11/19/2019 7:56:54 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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Why does Germany want to import gas? It’s my impression that Germany considers fossil fuels to be evil, that they contribute to global climate change and that Germany wants to transition to renewable energy.


13 posted on 11/19/2019 8:06:45 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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I'm confused. Please explain:

(1) Why does Russia NOT have the right to build a pipeline under the Baltic Sea -- far from Ukraine? And why must Congress pass 'sanctions' over it?

(2) What the heck does any of this have to do with the United States? We have our own massive gas reserves. If Europe does not, and needs to import it, isn't that EUROPE'S problem?

14 posted on 11/19/2019 8:09:19 PM PST by montag813
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The Europeans have no live with Russia. We don’t.

Germans are grateful to Russia for consenting to reunification of their country.

Any US sanctions are DOA. The US has no authority to order the EU to enforce US laws.

Then again, America is not a potential Russian gas customer but a commercial rival.

And this measure is aimed at protecting US commercial interests.


17 posted on 11/19/2019 8:26:01 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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There must be a lot of politicians that are worried that they won’t get any kickbacks from the Ukraine anymore once the billions in gas transit fees dry up.


18 posted on 11/19/2019 8:30:37 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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If there is bipartisan support on stopping the Nord pipeline, why doesn’t the House take a break from the impeachment circus and send a bill to the Senate that would stop the pipeline?

While they are at it, the House should move the Mexico/Canada trade bill as that too is good for our USA.


20 posted on 11/19/2019 8:44:36 PM PST by RicocheT (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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Follow the money. I bet there are some palms being greased.


25 posted on 11/19/2019 10:55:39 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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Deep state continues to attack Putin and tries to prop up the natural gas thieves in the Ukraine.


28 posted on 11/20/2019 5:52:39 AM PST by PAR35
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Degenerate Europe is better off under Russian domination - signed a European born immigrant.


35 posted on 11/20/2019 8:33:56 PM PST by Swarthy Greek Immigrant (MAGA! Deep State Delenda Est.)
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