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Vindman Broke Chain of Command to Get Word Out of Trump-Zelensky Call
Western Journal ^ | 11/19/19 | Randy DeSoto

Posted on 11/20/2019 2:32:51 AM PST by Libloather

Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman testified on Tuesday that he bypassed his chain of command and went directly to the National Security Council’s legal counsel to raise his concerns about President Donald Trump’s July phone call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky.

The implication appears to be that Vindman had an agenda, which was only strengthened by his claim in his opening statement that Trump demanded Zelensky open an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden, though according to the White House’s partial transcript, the commander in chief did no such thing.

Republican Rep. Brad Wenstrup of Ohio - an Army Reserve officer and Iraq war veteran - and fellow Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan pressed Vindman on his decision not to follow the chain of command.

(Excerpt) Read more at westernjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 20190725; armyreserves; chainofcommand; charles; charlie; ciaramella; eisenberg; ericciaramella; georgekent; johneisenberg; kent; morrison; mysteryman; nsc; perjury; schiff; trump; tunafish; ukraine; vindman; wenstrup; zelensky
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“I immediately went to John Eisenberg, the [NSC’s] lead legal counsel,” Vindman responded.

That's not the way it works. Big trouble.

1 posted on 11/20/2019 2:32:51 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Colonel’s boots ain’t spit shined. KP duty.


2 posted on 11/20/2019 2:42:15 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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He also said his immediate head, Morrison was unavailable. Morrison testified that he was not only available, but had seen Vindman that same day.


3 posted on 11/20/2019 2:42:58 AM PST by pnut22
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To: Libloather

Vindman has to be a commie mole.
Why did Ukraine off him the Defense Minister position three times?
The first time was feeling him out, the 2nd and 3rd times could only be considered as attempted bribes and wht did they even think he might be persuaded?
I wouldn’t be surprised if Biden was the mastermind behind this whole thing. Did Biden have Ukraine set up Vindman as a fall guy whistle blower knowing it would blow up?


4 posted on 11/20/2019 2:50:45 AM PST by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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To: BuffaloJack

Slo Pro Joe ain’t that smart. It was some one else.


5 posted on 11/20/2019 2:59:32 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Ginsberg didn't kill herself.)
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To: BuffaloJack

Slo Pro Joe ain’t that smart. It was some one else.


6 posted on 11/20/2019 2:59:32 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Ginsberg didn't kill herself.)
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To: Libloather

It’s being suggested he is the source to or is the whistleblower.


7 posted on 11/20/2019 3:00:52 AM PST by stockpirate (Anyone who believes Epstein killed himself is a fool)
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To: Libloather

The trail leads to Obama, Valire Jarred, Brennen, et el.


8 posted on 11/20/2019 3:02:45 AM PST by stockpirate (Anyone who believes Epstein killed himself is a fool)
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To: Libloather

That slithery piss-ant was so smug! He was obviously proud of what he did. Doesn’t he realize he himself broke military rules? I hope he’s arrested by Friday.


9 posted on 11/20/2019 3:08:44 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("I've read the back of The Book, and we win.")
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To: Libloather
Vindman is the perfect example of the kind of person who rises to the top in an Obama/Democrat dominated government

He is an ideologue and an egomaniac who is incompetent and not nearly as smart has he thinks he is. He has nothing but contempt for America and the American people and wants to see both taken down

10 posted on 11/20/2019 3:09:01 AM PST by rdcbn ( Referentia)
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From the article: “The lawmaker then delivered a final blow, pointing out that Vindman had the opportunity to offer his own edits to the transcript of Trump’s July 25 call with Zelensky.

In those edits, the officer never used the word “demand” to describe Trump’s requests during the call, but that is how Vindman characterized the president’s conversation in his opening statement to the committee on Tuesday.”


11 posted on 11/20/2019 3:09:28 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: BuffaloJack

I have been trying to do a little research and these people are all members of The Atlantic Council. This is a group pushing a global economy, along with other causes including climate change. It is headed right now by Chuck Hagel. He is the “republican” who served in the Obama cabinet, defense dept I think. He also has a scandal or two in his portfolio.

The people I have identified so far in the Council membership so far are Vindman, the whistleblower’s lawyer and if Ciarmella is the whistleblower, he is also a member. The list will go on and on, though.


12 posted on 11/20/2019 3:10:17 AM PST by pnut22
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To: Libloather

Could someone tell me why this very unimpressive person, the “look at my minor medals” type, has determined he runs US policy toward Ukraine, and when he doesn’t agree with it, goes bawling outside channels? What the hell is he doing giving advice to the Ukrainian government that may not be in the interests of America? I could give a damn about Ukraine, it was historically part of Russia and my sole interest is what the interests are of THIS country and its citizens in dealing with it. What is some mediocre, unelected Lt. Colonel doing making foreign policy on his own, especially when it comes to favoring his own damn home country? This jerk’s conduct is yet another reason for slimming down the National Security Council, ousting the careerists, cutting everyone but WH staff off presidential calls, no damn more “listening in” then running to the press or their fellow travelers on Capitol Hill.


13 posted on 11/20/2019 3:12:57 AM PST by laconic
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To: Libloather

We saw this immediately after Nam. The Army didn’t need warriors and warfighters any more so the political professionals started weeding them out and taking over. Vindman is the product of that.


14 posted on 11/20/2019 3:16:14 AM PST by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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https://trendingpolitics.com/dems-impeachment-witness-has-ties-to-biden-connected-burisma/

Took a whole minute to find this little gem.


15 posted on 11/20/2019 3:16:16 AM PST by pnut22
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To: pnut22

More on the Atlantic Council.

The Atlantic Council is funded by and works in partnership with Burisma, the natural gas company at the center of allegations regarding Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.

From a Breitbart article.


16 posted on 11/20/2019 3:20:52 AM PST by pnut22
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To: Libloather

Vidman is the main source, spy, of all the leaks in Trumps WH.
I can feel it in my bones. He had that look, “I run the foreign policy talking points, not Trump. “

Did you not notice those smirks. He’s like a serial killer telling the cops of how smart he is and that he knows better than the rest. ....and that the cops are too stupid to catch him.

Vidman wants to be caught. He seeks the fame and glory of single handedly bringing down the President. He wants that spot in the history books. He wants the world to know how smart he is. ...with a little bit of goading, he will spill the beans. If you were to tell him that, the whistle blower, and not him, deserves the fame and fortune, he would snap.

This also has something to do with his Dad too. Some deep dark twisted family secret that goes back to the Ukraine. In Vidman’s open, he dedicated his “prize testimony “ to his Dad. It was like he was accepting a Academy Award. ...and now I want to especially thank my Dad......

Something is going on between the Russian- Ukraine and Vidman Dad. I just can sense it.

Vidman is dirty. Bank on it.


17 posted on 11/20/2019 3:22:11 AM PST by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. https://youtu.be/V12H2mteniE)
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To: Libloather

Espionage, plain and simple. Vindman should have went to his own lawyer with it, but instead, he put himself in personal jeopardy.

This little nepotist needs jail time.


18 posted on 11/20/2019 3:25:29 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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And from Red State:
Also serving on the International Advisory Board of the Atlantic Council is James Clapper, who served as Obama’s Director of National Intelligence.


19 posted on 11/20/2019 3:32:43 AM PST by pnut22
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To: Libloather

We need to rout all POS officers out of our military.


20 posted on 11/20/2019 3:34:52 AM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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