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Trump signs federal ban on animal cruelty
NY Post ^ | November 25 2019 | Joe Tacopino

Posted on 11/25/2019 11:25:50 PM PST by knighthawk

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To: knighthawk

Why do I have the feeling that this well intentioned law will morph into something that will crush us.

Happened before?


41 posted on 11/26/2019 2:26:54 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Check out a vid of how useless male chicks are disposed of. Probably as humane as can be. Absolutely as gruesome as can be. Sorry, chickies, we need to eat.

Twenty years ago I accidentally spooked a baby quail into a teddy bear cholla. Still bothers be.

Never ever a reason to be cruel to an animal. They have that universally recognized status. Give them personhood, like the shit left wants to do, and they lose it. Then to heck with the new identity group.

Check a male chick video.

42 posted on 11/26/2019 2:32:53 AM PST by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under fifty.)
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To: Spktyr

Thank you. That totally explains why what seems to be a state matter is now federal law.

There are some truly sick people out there.


43 posted on 11/26/2019 2:48:28 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: jarwulf

I saw one in a news report, in which someone gave a cat to a large dog to “play” with. Although parts were censored, what remained was horrific.

With entire generations raised on the concept that it is not only acceptable, but desirable, to kill your own children as a form of birth control, it should be no surprise that such videos have an audience.


44 posted on 11/26/2019 2:55:23 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: Ikeon

Mouse traps are humane when they work properly. The mouse never feels a thing. Poisons, on the other hand, cause significant suffering. Glue traps are cruel, too.


45 posted on 11/26/2019 2:58:02 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: knighthawk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45VOLJjcLLU

I love this man

Tha k you President Trump


46 posted on 11/26/2019 3:09:30 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: knighthawk

The insane interpretation of the “Commerce clause” to include every human act, has to stop.


47 posted on 11/26/2019 3:15:22 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
The important bit...

in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce or within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

I had no idea it was an issue, but if it is, I'm all for letting Fedzilla go after the perps.

48 posted on 11/26/2019 3:20:08 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: marktwain

Most states can’t/won’t afford to go after criminals who prey on humans.

If Fedzilla wants to go after perps who prey on critters, I’m not having a cow.


49 posted on 11/26/2019 3:21:51 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: lee martell

So this is what—regulating commerce? Or have we finally dispensed with that quaint old notion of enumerated powers? Some years ago the subject would have come up. Perhaps even convervatives now see the notion as tedious and pedantic.


50 posted on 11/26/2019 3:24:02 AM PST by GCFADG (Pardon me.)
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To: knighthawk

So if I squash a bug, it’s a federal crime?


51 posted on 11/26/2019 3:28:25 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: momincombatboots
"According to the ruling class, people are animals. This should ban all partial birth abortions."

Maybe Trump has walked the Dems into a trap here.

52 posted on 11/26/2019 3:29:37 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again".)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Is this extended to insect life?”

We had this one young liberal mom that lived across the street. She caught her three year-old son playing with an ant with a twig.

By that time the ant was injured. The mom was mad at the son and trying to move the ant with a blade of grass into the lawn. The ant wasn’t moving much. Crying, the mom covered her son’s eyes and turned his head, then smooshed the ant to put it out of it’s misery.

Crazy!


53 posted on 11/26/2019 3:31:10 AM PST by 21twelve (!)
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To: Revel

[It seems to me that this would fit the constitutional definition of being a State Issue.]


You took the words right out of my mouth.


54 posted on 11/26/2019 3:46:13 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: knighthawk

Why should this be Federal? Why?


55 posted on 11/26/2019 3:47:23 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Spktyr

There are videos of everything. That your friend decided to look one up doesn’t prove any trend or ‘growing epidemic’. You know what actually is a big problem? Its overzealous societies that needs to pass laws governing every aspect of human behavior. There are more and more laws everyday restricting man to a smaller and smaller sphere of freedom. Man needs to learn to behave himself out of his own will be it to handle animals or to handle guns properly. Laws should be the absolute last and not the first resort period. Animal abusers are right up there with child molesters in the eyes of society and you’d be hard pressed to find these videos without going out and specifically looking for them and there are already tons of state laws. Seems to me things are pretty covered so far. Anybody who is abusing animals can go on doing it. What is more likely the result is that this law will mostly turn into censorship of ‘cruel videos’ and then when they will look around desperately for a target to justify their existence and turn into a stepping stone for banning hunting videos and beyond. This law is unnecessary specifically and a bad thing on general principle.


56 posted on 11/26/2019 3:49:09 AM PST by jarwulf
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To: 21twelve

There are also calls to ban glue traps as cruel to mice, small lizards, and even roaches.


57 posted on 11/26/2019 3:52:20 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

(B) so it is still permissible for muslims to slice open animals’ throats and let them drown on their own blood.


58 posted on 11/26/2019 3:59:46 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: Does so

What the actual f***.


59 posted on 11/26/2019 4:01:45 AM PST by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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To: Jewbacca

If you think about it, what really is the objective difference we could draw between cruelty and regular hunting/meat production aside from degree?

a PETAphile under this law could easily argue that you should be put in jail if you throw away the porkchop instead of eating it since the pig suffered unnecessarily. Heck meat production/hunting period could be banned under this logic if opinion shifted enough since nobody really needs to do either anymore so its all unnecessary suffering right???


60 posted on 11/26/2019 4:03:37 AM PST by jarwulf
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