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Man uses AR15 to Defend Self, Girlfriend against Masked Home Invader
AmmoLand ^ | 22 November, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/27/2019 3:30:55 AM PST by marktwain

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To: FreedomPoster

9mm cartridges can over-penetrate, too. If defending yourself in your house, don’t miss. Nearly anything will go through a sheet rock wall and do some damage, and people are not gelatin. Bullets fly right through many parts of the human anatomy. For AR-15 ammo, like other calibers, look at the numbers and penetration depths before choosing self-defense ammo. And don’t miss.

The AR for Home Defense: One Expert’s Opinion
The NRA
by American Rifleman Staff - Tuesday, May 26, 2015
https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/5/26/the-ar-for-home-defense-one-experts-opinion/

Best Choices for Self-Defense Ammo (FAQ)
.223
https://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/#mozTocId803443

In my opinion, training is more important than cartridge choice by far. I’ve seen in person, that even most people in civilian or military uniforms can’t hit what they’re firing at very well, even on ranges. The best marksman as a group are hillbillies.


61 posted on 11/27/2019 2:20:35 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: hinckley buzzard
"Good for the resident but, 14 rounds? He needs some tactical defensive training.."

In firefights lacking real cover that will stop rounds, especially in urban environments, frequent mobility is an advantage. Physical condition is very important.

In other words, hitting an attacker who is moving laterally and from high to low, especially behind walls and other objects, can be difficult. And a determined attacker might retreat and advance several times very quickly. Many criminals have moved around much while fighting and have killed their armed victims by doing so. Many of them were slim and in good physical condition.

That's the real reason for soldiers having expended enormous numbers of rounds in training with laser gear and in combat in both urban and field terrain environments.

62 posted on 11/27/2019 2:43:05 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: FreedomPoster

I wrote, “The best marksman as a group are hillbillies.” That should have been marksmen. A long time ago, I lived with hillbillies for years, did years of Army training for a combat specialty and graduated from a police academy.


63 posted on 11/27/2019 2:49:40 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: mfish13

I cannot accept your gratitude as I was proven incorrect - the AR-15 pistol is in fact a thing.


64 posted on 11/27/2019 5:26:28 PM PST by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: familyop

Those folks grew up hunting and shooting. Many to put bonus meat on the table. Think Sgt. York; it pre-dated your era, and I suspect that like me, you’re no Spring chicken.


65 posted on 11/27/2019 5:50:24 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: nonsporting
Not my gunfight. No need to chase down an armed man, after you've successfully plugged him a few times.

As long as he's in my house he's a threat and I will continue to engage until he is neutralized and no longer a threat, or he's outside of my house and no longer a threat. As long as he's in the house I don't know if he's trying to escape or trying to regroup and come after me again. The victim took the correct action in this case.

66 posted on 11/27/2019 6:34:11 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: real saxophonist
Just watching the Denver news channels, I’ve been bombarded with Bloomberg commercials the last couple of days.

That's one of the great benefits of not having a TV...no commercials.

67 posted on 11/27/2019 6:38:12 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: FreedomPoster
Still, he gets a passing grade on the 1st Rule of a Gunfight: Have a Gun.

And a passing grade on the 2nd rule of a gunfight...have enough ammo. That's why a wheel gun will never be my primary defensive firearm.

68 posted on 11/27/2019 6:40:34 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: FreedomPoster

Yes. I’m an “old, white male.” ;D


69 posted on 11/27/2019 7:10:22 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: AlaskaErik
The victim took the correct action in this case.

The victim left cover. I would remain behind cover in my BR, unless their are innocent third parties in the house. No mention of children, if I recall. If he enters through the doorway -- the kill zone -- he will be shot again.

I suspect he has had enough of the gunfight. The intended victim turned about to me armed. The attacker thought he could have his way without push back. The attacker now has a new "perspective".

The victim took an unnecessary risk.

70 posted on 11/28/2019 10:54:36 AM PST by nonsporting (MAGA -- Make America Godly Again)
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To: nonsporting
The victim took an unnecessary risk.

I'm retired LE and retired military, including six years in the Marine Corps. Cowering while there is a threat in my home is not an option. I will always advance so that I am in a position to neutralize any threat inside my home.

71 posted on 11/28/2019 7:24:53 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: AlaskaErik
Cowering while there is a threat in my home is not an option.

Gung-ho tactics might be called for on the battle field or when police must chase down an active threat, but under the circumstances described in the article, the most PRUDENT course of action is to "cower".

It's your gunfight. I wish you success.

72 posted on 11/29/2019 4:40:20 AM PST by nonsporting (MAGA -- Make America Godly Again)
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To: Cobra64

There are several variations of 60 round mags.

73 posted on 11/30/2019 6:11:09 PM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: gundog

Thanks! I stand corrected.


74 posted on 12/01/2019 12:37:47 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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