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Schiff’s Snooping Standard: He says he can gather and release private metadata because only ‘the far right’ objects.
Wall Street Journal ^ | December 8, 2019

Posted on 12/08/2019 3:41:27 PM PST by karpov

Kudos to Margaret Brennan of CBS for asking Adam Schiff on Sunday about his release of phone logs of his political opponents. Mr. Schiff dismissed any criticism, and his reason is revealing about the balance of power in Washington.

“The blowback has only come from the far right,” Mr. Schiff said. “But look, every investigator seeks phone records to corroborate, sometimes to contradict, a witness’s testimony.”

Yes, but executive-branch investigators who want to get data from private telecom companies typically must obtain some kind of judicial order. Mr. Schiff did it himself. Prosecutors are also supposed to limit the release of data on innocent bystanders like journalists for privacy reasons. The intelligence term of art is “minimization.” Mr. Schiff released the phone logs of journalist John Solomon and Rep. Devin Nunes —information irrelevant to his impeachment case against President Trump. The narrative of his report suggests he did it gratuitously to imply that Mr. Nunes is part of the Ukraine conspiracy, though the Republican has a right to call anyone he wants.

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To: Old Yeller
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... a consortium of corporate oil interests led by corrupt U.S. congriftman A. Dumb Schitt senator Charles Meachum

21 posted on 12/08/2019 4:03:27 PM PST by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: SpaceBar
Only jews have a problem with the camps.

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22 posted on 12/08/2019 4:05:15 PM PST by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: karpov

The Democrats are always Democrats first.

Being an American is way down on their list,


23 posted on 12/08/2019 4:06:47 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: karpov

Varying Expectations For IG Horowitz Report – The Convenient Application of “intent”……

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If Senator Lindsey Graham is correct – tomorrow the DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz will release a much anticipated review, looking into how the FBI and DOJ used an application to the FISA court to investigate the Trump campaign. There are wide-ranging opinions about what exactly this report may, or may not, outline.

The IG review has been ongoing for 21 months.  This report is anticipated to be a culmination of that investigative effort.  The ‘tick-tock club’ of Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, John Solomon and various Fox pundits have promised the report will be the most devastating outline of gross FBI and DOJ misconduct in the history of IG review.

Additionally, a network of financially dependent social media voices, book writers, podcast pundits and Q-theorists collectively known as the ‘trusty plan group’, have predicted criminal indictments, wide-scale arrests and a shock to the DC system that will fracture the foundation of the administrative state and simultaneously drain the swamp.

Meanwhile the Lawfare group has been the most visible advocacy network for the current and former DOJ and FBI officials who participated in setting up and using the FISA surveillance system now under IG review.   The Lawfare group has stated the IG report will exonerate all of their pre and post election activity; validate the justification for their predicate efforts; and leave the ‘tick-tockers’ and ‘trusty planners’ having to reconcile to their stunned audiences how they interpreted all the data so incredibly wrong.

A review of the last three IG reports which brush up against the same DOJ and FBI network: (1) IG review Clinton email/FBI conduct; (2) IG review of McCabe/media leaks; and (3) IG review of James Comey conduct; shows the IG report on FISA is likely to come down somewhere in the middle.  ie. mistakes were made; poor judgements were evident; some unprofessional conduct was found; some lack of candor was identified; department policies were not followed; but no direct evidence of intentional wrongdoing was attributable to a coordinated political effort.

If prior IG reports are predictive we should see something akin to:

…Everyone collectively just happened to make identical mistakes, at the same time, in the same direction, together with all the administrative staff within all intelligence organizations… many of them were professionally trained lawyers… but no-one did anything wrong on purpose….

Remember the modern mantra for DOJ definitions of legality are all about "intent".

Defining statutory violations by the intent of the violator is specifically attributable to how President Obama, AG Eric Holder and AG Loretta Lynch changed the entire enterprise of lawful application to make outcomes arbitrary, variable, changeable to the situation.

The IRS targeting wasn’t unlawful because it wasn’t intentional.  The death of four Americans due to sketchy CIA and State Dept. operations in Benghazi was not unlawful because the risky situation wasn’t created intentionally.  Hillary Clinton’s private email server with classified information wasn’t “intentional”, etcetera – etcetera, the list is long.

The nice thing about switching to definitions of lawbreaking by “intent” is the ease in arbitrary application.  Republican targets ‘intended’ to violate laws… Democrat targets, well, not-so-much.  Fluidity is a necessary oil amid a two-tiered administrative state.

If you elevate, I mean really elevate, and look at the bigger issue inside each of the examples there’s a connective thread surrounding a purposeful shift in accountability for broken laws by focusing on “criminal intent.”

“Intent”, not consequence, is now the larger shield being applied toward excusing the action of people within institutions of government and society.  Consider:

Ah yes, Hillary Clinton was not guilty or accountable because FBI Director James Comey said they couldn’t prove intent….. But the statute doesn’t require intent… But the DOJ said ignore the statute, they require it… and so it goes.

Also see years of Inspector General internal investigations culminating in the very familiar phrase: “declined to prosecute”; yup, they all surrounded intent.

Apparently anyone who breaks the law (lies) while inside the DOJ or FBI didn’t intend to… While lawbreakers (fibbers) outside the FBI/DOJ offices are intentful sons-of-bitches.

The “intent” issue extends everywhere….

Illegal alien entry, and accountability for fraud, all downplayed because there’s no proof of intent.   Walk down a pier in San Francisco and shoot a girl in the head… your honor, my client didn’t intend to do it.  The focus on intent -a specific decision made within the administration of a modern justice system- has become a shield against consequence.

It was a “mistake”…. he/she/it made “a poor decision” etc.  A pattern of obfuscation downplaying consequence and allowing those decision-makers charged with delivering accountability to withdraw or apply the rules of law based on their individual overlay of ‘intent’.

That shift is factually visible everywhere now.

The prior IG report by Horowitz [FBI bias & investigative outcome] was fraught with the application of ‘intent’ inside the inspectors explanation of absent evidence toward bias.

 

Each of these examples does not seem to be arbitrary, but rather connected to a more consequential decision by those in power to water-down accountability and open the doors for further abuse.

If the official didn’t ‘intend’ to do wrong, or more specifically if the people in position of delivering accountability for the wrong-doing cannot find specific intent, then the action is less-than regardless of outcome.

Consider what FBI officials were doing inside the FBI regarding media-leaks, then insert the James Wolfe example here & ask yourself how could they ever hold him accountable?

Pro Tip: They didn’t.

Following along the ideological lines we can all see how a shift to ‘intent’ can become a very serious issue within a corrupt system.

Within that system, and against that purposeful filter and determination, plausible deniability becomes the construct for intentional criminal engagement.

The illegal alien voter didn’t intend to violate the law… therefore no law was violated.  The Democrats who ballot-harvested illegal alien registration didn’t intend to violate the voting integrity statute… therefore no statute was violated.  Everyone just, well, made a mistake.

Whoopsie daisy.

A corrupt official doesn’t even need to put a finger on the scales of justice, once the scales are intentionally mis-calibrated like this.

If you wonder why there is such an overall sense of anxiety, poor conduct, lack of virtue and general unease within the recent landscape…. I would deposit the likelihood all of the unnerving instability around us is being caused by this shift away from consequence based entirely on ‘intent‘.

Brazen unlawfulness and abuses are now subject to arbitrary determinations of intent.

According to the current DOJ legal proceedings Michael Flynn the outsider intended to lie… FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, the insider, didn’t:

 

It’s this weird mish-mosh world where changing your party registration before you defraud your investors rob the bank might just help you out if you get caught.

From all current indications FBI Director Christopher Wray is directing his organization to spend more time filling the cracks in the dam (bias training) -trying to hold back the tide of electoral anger- than they are doing actual FBI work.  Which begs the question….

….did Bill Barr purchase scuba gear?

 

 

 


24 posted on 12/08/2019 4:07:22 PM PST by Bratch (IF YOU HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT CITIZENS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT LEADERS-George Carlin)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Existential-Shift
25 posted on 12/08/2019 4:07:34 PM PST by timestax
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To: Kozak
we’re this close to a full on Peoples Republic.

Another one, you mean. Try saying "I am an American citizen and a conservative and this is what I want to express to you at this town meeting here tonight."---- In Portland,Seattle,San Francisco, Ann Arbor MI,and countless other places where the Dem vote is around 80% every election.

There are sanctuary cities. Nuclear free zones. Colleges and universities where students can get someone fired for being conservative and ejected for speaking as a non PC student in public. And more.

But you mean the entire former USA in 2021. God forbid.

26 posted on 12/08/2019 4:10:07 PM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: karpov
This is why "the far right" objected to Schiff demanding to see unredacted grand jury testimony from the Mueller report.

If this is any indication, he can't be trusted with it. It was wise to deny it to him.

-PJ

27 posted on 12/08/2019 4:11:36 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: Bratch
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28 posted on 12/08/2019 4:12:08 PM PST by timestax
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To: karpov

You want to be secure in your person, papers and effects? You’re a damn Nazi.


29 posted on 12/08/2019 4:13:54 PM PST by BusterDog
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To: karpov
Start disbarment proceedings on attorney, Schiff. Some ethics violations and violations of law have consequences.
30 posted on 12/08/2019 4:17:27 PM PST by Robert357
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To: shelterguy

Yes. And they promised that it would never happen.


31 posted on 12/08/2019 4:20:00 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: karpov

If Schiff had his way, anyone who opposed him would be carried off to intern camps, wealth confiscated and they would be gassed and burned.


32 posted on 12/08/2019 4:23:09 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: Verginius Rufus
The NSA is running this impeachment show, on behalf of the State Department, CIA, and other "Inter-Agency" deep state shadow government heads who have spent 30 years building their money laundering empire.

Trump threatens it all. Democrat or Republican is just bread and circuses for public consumption.

33 posted on 12/08/2019 4:24:06 PM PST by blackdog
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To: karpov

He’s saying the Constitution does not prohibit congresscritters from illegal searches and such? Hmmm.


34 posted on 12/08/2019 4:26:25 PM PST by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: karpov

Schiff is a Bolshevic Jew,not a supporter of Israeli Zionists. Schiff’s predecessors were expelled from Russsia by Lenin, so why is anyone surprised?

Schiff would send every deplorable he could to a gulag. You have to snoop to find every deplorable.

This is how a Bolshevik like Schiff thinks.

And the ends justify the means.

The impeachment is a reaction to the President’s dismantling of the corrupt Soros bank network in Ukraine.No more money for the Soros Bolshevik efforts in Europe and America. Giuliani got the drop on them.


35 posted on 12/08/2019 4:30:00 PM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: karpov

I hope that very soon from now we will be seeing a classic example of what it is to be “hoisted on one’s own petard.” I mean, Hamlet didn’t enlighten us to the degree that we would all have loved to have been.


36 posted on 12/08/2019 4:30:45 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: karpov

Seems he is committing illegal acts of all sorts.


37 posted on 12/08/2019 4:32:52 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: karpov

Normally, he would be immune to a personal lawsuit, but he sought these records, when he was not authorized to do so. He subpoenaed these phone records on 10/30 and he was not authorized for his investigation to get these phone records until the following day on 10/31. It is not a trivial thing to have missed this authorization, and In addition to personal civil liability he is also criminally liable under a variety of federal laws and could end up in the federal pen for 10 - 20 years.


38 posted on 12/08/2019 4:33:52 PM PST by krogers58
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To: Eleutheria5


Lindsey Graham has said he will not call Schiff, or the Bidens.

The GOP stabbing the right in the back.


39 posted on 12/08/2019 4:36:32 PM PST by AnthonySoprano
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To: krogers58

If that’s the case, then put him in jail. Throw away the key. Lawmakers should face a much higher standard.


40 posted on 12/08/2019 4:37:12 PM PST by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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