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Reports: Saudi Shooter Got Gun Legally
Summit.news ^ | Published 1 min ago on 9 December, 2019 | Steve Watson

Posted on 12/09/2019 7:54:51 AM PST by Red Badger

Obtained a license and bought weapon from local dealer

Multiple reports are indicating that the Saudi student who shot up the Naval Air Station in Pensacola Friday morning, killing three and wounding more acquired the weapon he used legally from a local dealer.

Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, a second lieutenant in the Saudi Air Force who was in the US as an aviation student, was able to buy a gun despite the fact that “nonimmigrant aliens” are not permitted to do so, according to NBC News.

The BATF notes that anyone admitted to the US under a nonimmigrant visa is typically “prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving, or possessing a firearm or ammunition,” however, those with a valid hunting license or permit, and those who were admitted for “lawful hunting or sporting purposes” are able to purchase firearms.

Alshamrani was able to get such a license, according to sources cited by NBC, allowing him to undergo a background check, which in Florida involves a three-day waiting period, per state law.

The Washington Post further notes that another ATF regulation allows non-citizens to possess firearms if they’re from “a friendly foreign government entering the United States on official law enforcement business.”

The development is even more remarkable given that the shooter had a twitter page that reportedly featured anti-American posts and glorified quotes from Osama Bin Laden, according to The SITE Intel Group.

While investigations are still ongoing into whether the attack was “terrorism”, it has been reported that the gunman hosted a “dinner party” prior to the attack, where guests watched mass shooting videos.

"The Saudi student who fatally shot three people at a U.S. naval base in Florida hosted a dinner party earlier in the week where he and three others watched videos of mass shootings."

"Dinner party."

— Paul Joseph Watson (@PrisonPlanet) December 7, 2019

Further details that emerged over the weekend suggest that one of the victims, Joshua Kaleb Watson, 23, a recent graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy, acted heroically by making it outside the air station and informing the first response team where the shooter was, despite being gravely injured by at least five gunshots.

RIP, Joshua Kaleb Watson, hero: Pensacola NAS shooting victim 'saved countless lives with his own' https://t.co/03O4tupBFn via @pnj

— Ed Whelan (@EdWhelanEPPC) December 7, 2019

Ensign Watson, who would have gone on to be a military jet pilot, later died from the injuries, yet has been credited with saving countless lives with his actions.

Watson and two other sailors, Airman Mohammed Sameh Haitham and Airman Apprentice Cameron Scott Walters are said to have run toward the danger in an effort to save colleagues and friends.

The shooting, along with a prior incident at Pearl Harbor Naval shipyard on Wednesday in which two were killed, has again raised questions concerning military installations generally forbidding anyone from carrying a firearm, even if it is government-issued.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; florida; nas; navy; pensacola
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1 posted on 12/09/2019 7:54:51 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

How the he** does a non citizen get a gun “legally?”


2 posted on 12/09/2019 7:56:48 AM PST by goodnesswins (Want to know your family genealogy? Run for political office...)
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To: Red Badger

“was able to buy a gun despite the fact that “nonimmigrant aliens” are not permitted to do so” -— Then how could he buy it legally?


3 posted on 12/09/2019 7:57:25 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy

The way I read the article, those who obtain a hunting license can buy guns. Maybe he got the hunting license first.


4 posted on 12/09/2019 8:02:26 AM PST by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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To: PghBaldy

It’s people not doing their jobs whose asses are covered. You can always blame the system. The wall will not solve the problem but it will be there for those who do not do their jobs.


5 posted on 12/09/2019 8:02:40 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: PghBaldy

“ another ATF regulation allows non-citizens to possess firearms if they’re from “a friendly foreign government entering the United States on official law enforcement business.”


6 posted on 12/09/2019 8:03:31 AM PST by Meatspace
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To: Red Badger
raised questions concerning military installations generally forbidding anyone from carrying a firearm, even if it is government-issued.

Yeah - THAT'S going to work.

I could have had a bazooka in my trunk every time I drove on base when I was active duty.
A pistol in my briefcase would have been easy too...

Whoever is raising questions (if it's not Mr. Strawman) is an idiot.

7 posted on 12/09/2019 8:04:10 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: goodnesswins

Anyone with a green card can buy a gun.
That’s something we should look at changing.


8 posted on 12/09/2019 8:05:15 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: goodnesswins

Non citizens with legal status have Second Amendment rights.


9 posted on 12/09/2019 8:05:29 AM PST by Meatspace
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To: quilterdebbie

Correct. A friend of mine is a German who visits the US once or twice a year on combined business/vacation. He maintains a valid Texas hunting license and therefore was legally able to buy and own a Mossberg 590.


10 posted on 12/09/2019 8:05:55 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: grobdriver

When I was in the USMC, waaaaay back in the mid 70’s, a member of my company was stopped at the main gate because he had what looked like a 45 on the dash board of his car (This was back when cars had huge dashboards).

It was a fake, but looked real.

He still got into trouble, but minor.....................


11 posted on 12/09/2019 8:06:54 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain............)
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To: Red Badger

One of the consequences of applying the Constitution to foreign nationals.


12 posted on 12/09/2019 8:09:47 AM PST by NoLibZone (Only God's or our wrath can save the nation. Voting and posting isn't working.)
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To: PghBaldy; goodnesswins

FROM THE ARTICLE:

“The Washington Post further notes that another ATF regulation allows non-citizens to possess firearms if they’re from “a friendly foreign government entering the United States on official law enforcement business.” “


13 posted on 12/09/2019 8:09:54 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain............)
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To: NoLibZone

We need an amendment that restricts the benefits of the Constitution to citizens only..................It would pass the States quickly...........


14 posted on 12/09/2019 8:12:47 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain............)
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To: Red Badger

We should not have any Saudis in any of our schools or Universities. Not one. We should not afford Saudi Arabia a modicum of legitimacy until they give up their hate and contempt for the rest of the world. We should declare that their government is an evil tyranny, and we should do everything possible to take it down. They should be thrown out of the UN and all other international organizations, bodily if necessary. Are we insane?!! They have built 2000 mosques in America so their Imams can spew their hate for Jews and Christians and wow the seeds of Jihad. There has not been a single Church or synagogue hilt in Saudi Arabia and there never will be; conversion to any other religion brings an automatic death penalty. It is an evil country ruled by an evil regeime


15 posted on 12/09/2019 8:23:30 AM PST by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees)
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To: goodnesswins

Per 2ndA, should be as simple as paying an agreeable price to the seller.
Natural right.

Insofar as it’s infringed, there are legal means (alleged hunting use, as noted).


16 posted on 12/09/2019 8:24:03 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: Red Badger

Kinda missing the point of the Bill Of Rights there.


17 posted on 12/09/2019 8:24:49 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: grobdriver

While serving on a CG in Florida in the mid 90’s, the Commanding Officer had me drive to pick up ‘some’ ammo at a place in Jacksonville. We were heading over to Europe for a NATO exercise and one his friends was the defense attache in one country we were scheduled to visit.

When I went through the gate I had over 10k rounds in the back of my Bronco.


18 posted on 12/09/2019 8:29:55 AM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: Red Badger

Well, I doubt that would apply in this case, unless the military (Saudi or American) is doing law enforcement here.


19 posted on 12/09/2019 8:33:19 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Meatspace

Yep.
And with all active killer incidents, they’re going to rush to punish the innocent because of it.
They’d never think to, you know, perhaps ARMING THE INNOCENT AND ABOLISHING GUN FREE ZONES?!


20 posted on 12/09/2019 8:39:37 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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