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President Trump can stop our military bases from being gun free zones.

Here are some ideas on how it can be done.

1 posted on 12/13/2019 12:08:12 PM PST by marktwain
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Military can’t be trusted with guns and weapo................ Oh.


2 posted on 12/13/2019 12:10:38 PM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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I read that it is up to the base commander. Seems like we have a bunch of anti-gun base commanders who don’t trust their subordinates.


3 posted on 12/13/2019 12:14:01 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Everyone who favors socialism plans on the government taking other people's money, not theirs.)
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I believe it was Bill Clinton that disarmed them out of fear they might shoot him since he Publicly Loathed the Military


4 posted on 12/13/2019 12:14:24 PM PST by eyeamok
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President Trump can stop our military bases from being gun free zones.
I was at Camp Lejeune '68-'69 and I was damned glad it was a gun free zone.
There was so much minority hatred and violence I'm sure many people would have been killed.
5 posted on 12/13/2019 12:14:55 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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Retired in 94. Prior to that carried my own or issued sidearm and was carried concealed or not with the knowledge of my superiors on base ....... Clintonistas started this no firearms on base PC cow crap. Were it my decision every active duty, retired and veteran would be issued a simple Glock 19 with their Dog Tags for life....... my opinion.


7 posted on 12/13/2019 12:18:25 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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How about we make America a Saudi free zone? or a Moslem free zone? How about we stop bringing these people in? That’s what the American people want. Sure, gun free zones are dumb. That’s nothing compared with bringing in Saudis for flight training in a “post 9/11 world”. How about we take our own side.


8 posted on 12/13/2019 12:19:13 PM PST by cdcdawg (Cornpop was a bad dude!)
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To: marktwain
President Trump can stop our military bases from being gun free zones.

It would be more efficient to declare them muslim-free zones.

10 posted on 12/13/2019 12:20:32 PM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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A few basic background facts:

Only authorized or permitted folks can enter a base/post in general. Active/Reserve/guard on duty, retirees, veterans using facilities etc. The average non-affiliated citizen cannot just drive on to a base with impunity.

DOD Regulations, along with subordinate service regs, prohibit the carry of arms by pretty anyone not on LE duty, military or civilian. Including LEOSA qualified folks.

Current DOD policy is that all private arms ( bows and arrows and even yes, air guns) need to be registered with the base/post Provost/MA.

Personnel who reside on post/base may kept weapons in their quarters but not in transient barrack/BOQ/VOQ etc.

Mil Personnel who reside off post may register ( if they wish to bring weapons on post).

Retirees and other privileged veterans cannot bring weapons on post unless they are registered, and then only to hunt or shoot at authorized event/ranges.

Concealed or open carry by anyone other than authorized DOD/civ LE officers/agents is prohibited.

So, basically only LEOs either on duty on a base or civ LEOS with a reason to be on post/base may be armed.

Here is what I think is a reasonable response to this abstract prohibition:

Concealed carry licensed authorized personnel ought to be able to declare their status when entering and go about their authorized business/patronage on post.

Commanders ought to be encouraged to permit ( DOD 214 I believe) their officers and NCOs who OBTAIN CCW permits from a state 9any will do) and authorize them to carry privately owned arms that those personnel qualify with annually as per LEOSA rules.

The reason I suggest CCW licenses etc is because while military personnel are often decent marksman, they may be lacking in understanding of the rules of engagement regarding lawful self defense. Vetting personnel via a states CCW process is a reliable way ( it works for the states) to assure that only interested, dedicated servicemen will go the distance to be proficient not only at arms, but at the lawful application of self defense.


11 posted on 12/13/2019 12:30:30 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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Trump already changed the military directive in 2017. The policy started under Clinton, but the initial thrust was under Bush Sr.


16 posted on 12/13/2019 1:18:56 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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i always carried and I always had live ammo on my person.

stupid not to in the middle of Fort Nowhereville.


30 posted on 12/13/2019 2:04:27 PM PST by I got the rope
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Arm all officers and senior NCOs.


31 posted on 12/13/2019 2:26:27 PM PST by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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Same reason civilians are in blue states.


33 posted on 12/13/2019 2:57:49 PM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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“America’s Armed Forces will be armed.”

Makes a mockery out of the term “armed forces”. Every swinging —— and female military member should be armed at all times.


37 posted on 12/13/2019 5:06:59 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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WHY isn’t that POS Nidal Malik Hasan DEAD YET?

Approaching 2020

See clearly.


39 posted on 12/13/2019 5:36:10 PM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization? Remember the Alamo! Remember the republic?)
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