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1 posted on 12/17/2019 5:27:26 AM PST by Kaslin
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Why would the EU want anything to do with Scotland?

Same with Catalonia. More trouble than they're worth.

2 posted on 12/17/2019 5:32:54 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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Mankind is a tribal species and we want to live among our own. That is simply reality.


3 posted on 12/17/2019 5:35:44 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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If you can’t beat ‘em, quit. Look for CA to try to secede if Trump wins in 2020.

I also scratch my head at what is going on with the Scots. You have people who are [supposedly] uber proud of their Scottish heritage & culture. Yet they want EU control and open borders. It simply does not compute.


4 posted on 12/17/2019 5:36:50 AM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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He says that like it’s a bad thing....


5 posted on 12/17/2019 5:40:45 AM PST by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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The Globalists are pushing hard for one world government. Meanwhile, the number of countries increases. People want sovereignty.

The media talks about the EU and globalism like an inevitable force that everyone supports. I think the opposite is true.


6 posted on 12/17/2019 5:41:21 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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The desire to secede stems from one problem that pervades politics anywhere and everywhere; That is that central governments feed their power growth on the backs of all of it’s constituent parts. It’s true if your in Scotland and London grows at your expense, and it’s true if your in South Ossetia and Georgia grows at your expense, and it’s true if you are in Monticello and Indianapolis gets bigger on your backs. It’s not just about freedom and self-determination, although those are very powerful motivators. Sometimes it’s just about being liberated from an exploitative structure of governance.


7 posted on 12/17/2019 5:42:12 AM PST by z3n
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“secessionist drive”

No, the problem is the drive of government in its desire to expand its power and authority over people. The secessionist “drive” is a REaction to that government over-reach.

There’s no reason to secede from a government that’s not always in your face and trying to run your day to day life while picking most of your pocket.

Limited government is what precludes secession.


8 posted on 12/17/2019 5:45:14 AM PST by fruser1
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The threat of secession is the only way to hold accountable a small ‘r’ republican form of government.


9 posted on 12/17/2019 5:48:04 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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As Pat Buchanan has pointed out, national borders are cultural barriers. With the diverging cultures in the United States, it is only a matter of time before coastal areas secede and form an EU-like entity, themselves.


10 posted on 12/17/2019 5:48:14 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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Weakness brings forth independence. Colonial independence grew after wwII due to the weakness seen in central authority, thousands of miles away. Singapore and India saw the weakness of the UK. African colonies followed years later.
13 posted on 12/17/2019 5:55:32 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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The secessionist action taking place is an outward manifestation of the inherent human desire to live in a community of shared human traits. It is a knife driven through the heart of world globalists and a testament to the driving force of country sovereignty. When one steps back and observes how the world was originally ordered into countries (communities), you see the natural dynamic at work. Trying to turn the world into a ‘one world village’ is an anathema to this most basic of human desires. Call it nationalism if you will, but it is a very real desire to belong to a common community with similar belief systems and human traits.


14 posted on 12/17/2019 5:57:02 AM PST by iontheball
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But if Britain secedes from the EU, warns Scotland's first minister Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland will secede from the United Kingdom.

I am just not seeing a downside to this. I bet Scotland costs a lot more than it pays into the treasury. Best of all, Scotland could re-install the Stuart dynasty.

Of course, they'd be Germans:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/286277/The-rightful-heir-to-the-Scottish-throne
19 posted on 12/17/2019 6:16:15 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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The first great secessionist cause was the Revolution, when the 13 American colonies declared and won independence from the British crown.uhhh….how about Byzantium, Pat?
23 posted on 12/17/2019 6:45:23 AM PST by gr8eman (Stupid should hurt! Treason should hurt more!)
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I don’t think Brexit and the Conservative victory necessarily make Scottish independence more likely. So the UK and Europe are dissolving their national borders and identities. As an independence-minded Scot, you make say, “cool, I keep all my UK business, privileges, etc., but now I can ALSO do business more easily with France, visit Greece, etc.”

Now the U.K. decides NOT to be in the E.U. Does leaving the U.K. help your business? Now you have to choose between a nation much larger than yours right next to you, or an even larger nation on the other side of it.


28 posted on 12/17/2019 7:21:28 AM PST by dangus
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From the sun never sets on the British Empire to the moon never sets on the British Empire.


29 posted on 12/17/2019 7:52:10 AM PST by Meatspace
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The first great secessionist cause was the Revolution, when the 13 American colonies declared and won independence from the British crown.

It is solemnly declared today that our Revolution was about ideas, such as the equality of all men. But the author of the Declaration did not believe in equality.

Jefferson was a Virginia plantation owner, some of whose slaves were with him in Philadelphia. He described Native Americans in the Declaration as "merciless Indian Savages." The British are fraternally called "brethren" with whom we share "ties of a common kindred," but who have been "deaf to the voice of consanguinity."

For heaven’s sake Pat, get a grip.

Our Founders recognized the evils of slavery, but slavery was an existing problem, that could not be addressed at the time of our founding, or the nation would not have been formed do to opposition to ending slavery in some of the original colonies, and slavery would have continued on anyway.

Our founding documents laid the basis for addressing slavery later on, with language declaring ALL men (mankind) created equal.

Lest anyone forget, the U. S. accounted for less than 5% of all slaves globally, and yet the U. S. is singled out time and again as if it were the scourge of the planet due to slavery here. Nonsense!

Comments like these bolster the race baiting class, and are thus very destructive. We SHOULD NOT make comments that bolster the case for anti-Americans amongst us.

30 posted on 12/17/2019 8:02:44 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Pledge: "...and to the Democracy for which it stands..." I give up. Use the democRat meme...)
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Scotland’s not going anywhere. Boris says “no”, the Scottish women bitch for awhile, then they get preoccupied with the upcoming Alex Salmon “me too” trial, then Boris hands them the bill and they duck and cover.


33 posted on 12/17/2019 8:34:21 AM PST by ameribbean expat (Socialism is like a nude beach - - sounds great til you actually get there. -- David Burge.)
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And when Westminster says “no” to another referendum what will Nichols Sturgeon do then?

Why.....Why......Why........she’ll flap her gums!

Pffffffffffft! Who the hell cares?


36 posted on 12/17/2019 10:00:14 AM PST by FLT-bird
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The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form.

Jefferson Davis


37 posted on 12/17/2019 11:03:51 AM PST by Lonely Are The Brave (A man's got to know his limitations. Dirty Harry Callahan)
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When did secessionism begin? The Americans started it all.

Really?

Halicarnassus might beg to differ.

The Songhai might as well.

In fact lots of regions through out history have declared themselves independent of their ruling state.

39 posted on 12/17/2019 11:16:11 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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