Mmmmmmmm......he's so loved by the electorate.
Posted on 01/12/2020 1:59:23 PM PST by conservative98
Unfathomable that this 2-faced SCUMBAG is running for POTUS.
“in order to form a more perfect union”? Not a chance with the likes of Joe Biden. Sorry FF.
Man, I still remember that haunting image on TV when the "coalition of the willing" unconditionally surrendered from the overwhelming might of Tariq Aziz's advanced military forces and the humiliation of seeing poor Gen. Tommy Franks captured and beheaded on live television, cheered on by Saddam himself. I mean, the war wasn't even freakin' close, the Iraqis simply overwhelmed our guys within days, and Saddam's Baath Party gloated about their victory to the entire world and swiftly purged all remaining Americans from Iraq. If only we had listened to Baghdad Bob's dire warnings, he spoke the TRUTH! What FOOLS we were to even THINK we could successfully take out Saddam and overthrow his regime!
Mmmmmmmm......he's so loved by the electorate.
The Iraq War was over before CNN could lie about it. It was one of the most brilliant military ops in history, especially the never-before-achieved “Thunder Run” in which armor unsupported by infantry captured and held downtown Baghdad.
What happened during the “nation building” was tragic. To this day, I’m not willing to “blame” Bush. I think he and Rummy thought it would work; I think they genuinely (if wrongly) believed the Iraqis could act like grown-ups and manage themselves and not kill each other. But the absence of provable, large quantities of WMDs (I remain convinced they were there, and shipped to Assad) and the hoopla surrounding Abu Ghraib, plus the constant bad news of deaths by IEDs-—all capped by Bush’s refusal to level Fallujah the first time around (here he was told by both the Iraqi “government” and the Brits that the coalition would end if he did so), pretty much ensured that it would be a quagmire.
I remain of the opinion that while we should “leave” most of these places (Iraq, Afghanistan) we should maintain very effective air bases there whether the locals like it or not. This is not negotiable.
When I was in the navy, near Baghdad (Sept. 2004-March ‘05), I didn’t know it was a failed war. I didn’t hear any of my co-workers (mostly marines and soldiers) say that we were failing.
Some people might think it was a failed war because of the biased media coverage. Whenever an American dies, in Iraq or Afghanistan, a lot of reporters talk about the death. When Americans kill our enemies, in those countries, the same reporters don’t mention our progress. When I was there, I was in a marine infantry battalion. When we arrived in Iraq, we had about 1200 people. 13 of the marines died, and the battalion killed about 200 Iraqis.
The invasion was extremely successful.
It’s the subsequent “occupation” while we tried to help “democracy” foster in a shiitehole that “failed”.
This distinction is lost.
I agree with the professor.
“I remain of the opinion that while we should “leave” most of these places (Iraq, Afghanistan) we should maintain very effective air bases there whether the locals like it or not. This is not negotiable.”
It was an ass kicking. Creating a “democracy?” A little different story.
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