[KevinB]

‘if you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying.’

The Democrat motto?

[Red Badger]

Quote from Joe Montana........................

[Red Badger]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/joe-montana-on-patriots-if-you-aint-cheating-you-aint-trying/

But it goes back farther than Joe. The credo in NASCAR has always been “If you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’,” and that has never changed despite series effort to keep things on the up-and-up.................

https://apnews.com/bad3082f242b433fa880068906bdb2bb