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'This time I'm scared': experts fear too late for China virus lockdown
AFP ^ | Issued on: 24/01/2020 - 11:40 Modified: 24/01/2020 - 11:39 | Agence France-Presse

Posted on 01/24/2020 9:51:30 AM PST by Zhang Fei

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To: MayflowerMadam

So many misconceptions on these threads...

The question of China opening up the Internet is a multi-edged sword for them, and somewhat irrelevant, here, speaking to “getting a handle on it” (the virus) promptly.

In this case, actually, the Chinese doctors were working with outside experts almost as soon as the problem manifest itself seriously. For one, the virus genome was mapped exceptionally early on, and published*, due to a group of Chinese doctors working with the University of Sidney (Australia.)

*I’ve read the documentation online, not that I understand the mapping! I do have a question though, for any FReeper knowledgeable: Once that genome is mapped, how much does that tell the experts?


121 posted on 01/25/2020 9:14:50 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: steve86

I can speak to that personally. My brother, a few years back, got a viral respiratory infection (not flu, the Dr.’s said) which lead to bacterial necrotic pneumonia. It was touch and go there for a few days. Lots of heavy antibiotics and other treatments / care pulled him through, and he came out of it (including initial rehab) with about 75% reduced lung function. Time and therapy restored that to about 1/3 of what he had going in to the whole ordeal.

Secondary (and often fatal) bacterial infections were quite common with Spanish flu victims who survived the initial viral infection (and sometimes immune system over-response).


122 posted on 01/25/2020 9:36:59 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: Jim Noble

I would expect the mortality rate in any area to go down... unless or until the health care system is overwhelmed. This must be the reason China is scrambling to build, not one, but TWO large hospitals* in the Wuhan area in the next several days. They expect to be overwhelmed, otherwise (and may be anyway - we shall see.)

*I just saw that on CBS this evening, with vids of the construction.

(Yeah, I know, CBS, but we are helping out my elderly Mom and she flipped it on.)

IF this virus gets here in a big bad way, thank God we have Trump, because this is exactly the sort of action (”Jump! Jump NOW!!”) that may be needed.


123 posted on 01/25/2020 10:04:39 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: Mariner

And now, according the Canadian National Lab, patients are contagious up to five days prior to the manifestation of symptoms. Current R0 is between 3.6 and 4.0. On par with Rubella.

So it is interesting to consider the firing of a husband-wife Chinese team of scientist that led Virology at the same lab in March 2019 after they were caught in the smuggling of coronavirus from that same lab to China.


124 posted on 01/26/2020 6:41:58 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: cornfedcowboy

Son’s trip to Singapore just got cancelled. Thank God.


125 posted on 01/31/2020 2:16:53 PM PST by heylady
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To: heylady

Hey! I was wondering how that all turned out. This is good news for you(and of course you son too).


126 posted on 01/31/2020 6:25:29 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s how I feel too. The media makes everything into a crisis SARS Ebola Y2K ... the list goes on and it always is nothing.


127 posted on 02/02/2020 4:25:40 PM PST by proud American in Canada (Trump 2020!)
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