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Is the Coronavirus Outbreak China's Chernobyl? The Infection Rate seems much more severe than has been admitted to by the communist government.
American Thinker ^ | 02/03/2020 | Dexter Wright

Posted on 02/03/2020 9:09:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

We’ve been successful at importing the disease, now infecting 11 Americans, so in a week, we should get a good data point on survivability in the USA. If all 11 kick the bucket, I will be worried. If none of them do, I will treat it like any other flu.


21 posted on 02/03/2020 10:12:00 AM PST by jimmygrace
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To: SeekAndFind
Influenza in the US: "So far, 10,000 people have died and 180,000 people have been hospitalized during the 2019-2020 flu season, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC" - ABC News

Just adding some perspective here.

22 posted on 02/03/2020 10:15:57 AM PST by kaboom
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To: SeekAndFind
Pretty obvious that the true facts of this event are being suppressed.

Best way to gage the magnitude of the problem is to gauge the actions of the people who actually have access to hard facts.

They are taking this very seriously and , while adopting a wait and see posture, they are quietly getting their ducks in a row to act quickly and decisively in case things break bad in a big way.

When a guy like Tom Cotton explicitly makes the kind of statements he has been making, very good chance that this is a huge bio engineering problem manufactured by the Chinese and not some random event

China has some amazingly brilliant people, but China is culturally and ethically very poorly suited to safely working on virulent and deadly pathogens

23 posted on 02/03/2020 10:31:35 AM PST by rdcbn ( Referentiai)
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To: SeekAndFind

In all fairness, I doubt any government could have handled either Chernobyl or Hunan any better. There are realities of nuclear and biological catastrophes that can neither be planned for or responded to.

This being said, response is also situational, that is Chernobyl was very different from the Fukushima Daiichi disaster. And the Coronavirus response is a lot different from the anticipated H5N1 influenza epidemic that didn’t happen but could have been as bad as a thermonuclear war.


24 posted on 02/03/2020 10:52:37 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberalism is the belief everyone else should be in treatment for your disorder.)
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To: BushCountry

What is that chance it could mutate into something more deadly before they arrest it?


25 posted on 02/03/2020 11:13:51 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Heck, who knows. But summer kills a lot of viruses too. High temp and humidity kills this thing off quick. It survives a lot longer in dry air and cooler environment.

With a vaccine on its way, treatment for severely infected working, and warmer, dryer weather of the summer, this thing might be an afterthought in a couple months.


26 posted on 02/03/2020 11:40:57 AM PST by BushCountry (thinks he needs a gal whose name doesn't end in ".jpg"r)
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To: Bon mots

*estimate


SWAG.

The information available suggests it could be anywhere from a hundredth that, to ten times that - primarily because information is severely lacking, and because it is still very early in the cycle. How many cohorts of infected have gone completely through the infection/recovery cycle?


27 posted on 02/03/2020 11:44:42 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: DannyTN

They have discovered in the last few days that an HIV cocktail heals the critical patients. Makes the virus disappear out of their system in two days. China plus a lot of the other countries are using this method now.


28 posted on 02/03/2020 11:44:43 AM PST by BushCountry (thinks he needs a gal whose name doesn't end in ".jpg"r)
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To: BushCountry

Cost, stock on hand, time to manufacture, distribution, prioritization.

Your cavalier response makes it sound like none of those factors matter.


29 posted on 02/03/2020 12:21:24 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Yes, actually, in July. Bought FRDM.


30 posted on 02/03/2020 12:36:56 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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To: lepton
As it sits, the mortality rate, in China, appears to be somewhere between 0.04% and 60% or so.

Isn't that the truth.
31 posted on 02/03/2020 12:44:05 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: BushCountry; lepton
HIV treatment with ART is costly. A 2015 study using 2012 health care expenditure data estimated that the discounted lifetime medical costs for an individual who acquires HIV at age 35 years is $326,500 ($597,300, undiscounted), with 60% of the costs attributable to ART.

So that above excerpt is from the NIH website, I dunno how long the life expectancy is for their numbers though. Another website I found that lists drug prices (current), showed a list of maybe 100, with prices varying from $360/month up to $5000/month. I have no idea how many or which ones make up the HIV cocktail.
32 posted on 02/03/2020 12:56:52 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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Thailand found good results after using a mix of two antiviral drugs on a Chinese patient who was in a serious condition with the novel coronavirus, according to a health ministry briefing.

They used two different HIV antivirals, or they used two different HIV antiviral cocktails? Cause there's likely a big cost difference between them.
33 posted on 02/03/2020 12:58:56 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar

Thanks for that reference.


34 posted on 02/03/2020 1:08:06 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SeekAndFind

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35 posted on 02/03/2020 1:27:00 PM PST by sauropod (If women are upset at TrumpÂ’s naughty words, who bought 80 million copies of 50 Shades of Grey?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Um, no.

Party politics caused mishandling of the incident at Chernobyl top to bottom.

One of the worst things was “pass the buck” and CYA. Yeah that happens in the USA too, but not to the extent of the USSR.

Remember they saw the core “burning”, and DID NOT EVACTUATE Pripyat. IN truth the core was not burning as we know it, nor was it critical (sustaining a reaction), but it was the waste products creating decay heat keeping the core incandescent and causing the waste products themselves to burn off with the airflow passing through the core.

Even worse, the reactor’s instability was covered up repeatedly until Chernobyl occurred! All to save the USSR’s image as atomic masters, and to belittle the US Nuclear industry (in truth Russia had melted cores REPEATEDLY before Chernobyl).

Yes, I think once they sort-of-came-clean to the West, they did begin to handle it as well as a country of their backwardness could. Backwardness directly caused by communism.

Even then, GE, Westinghouse, etc. would have had it contained in mere days to the point where planning could take place for a better solution. The amount of capital our country can command in a blink of a eye is mind blowing. And it wouldn’t even bankrupt us.


36 posted on 02/03/2020 3:12:58 PM PST by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: SeekAndFind

” Xi cannot blame this outbreak on foreign powers”

there have been reports that they already have been doing that ...


37 posted on 02/03/2020 5:14:33 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“There are reports that the PRC is digging mass graves and burning bodies to deal with the death toll”

no doubt, 4th hand blog “reports” “leaking” out of the PRC are even more reliable than “reports” of “sources” that we see published all the time from such stalwarts as WaPo, NYT, CNN, MSNBC, and NBC ...


38 posted on 02/03/2020 5:18:12 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: lepton

AV aren’t in much use for anything but HIV and these are $14 to 20k per cycle in US or $400k lifetime cost.
I understand why Russia or Thailand with under a dozen cases might use it on coronavirus now but not the poorer nations with thousands infected.


39 posted on 02/05/2020 12:58:47 PM PST by NorseViking
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