Posted on 02/10/2020 12:30:42 AM PST by robowombat
Way too close to Burisma to be unbiased.
Good description of Trump vs The Establishment
Mormons were outsiders in a country dominated by Mainstream Protestants, so they were defensive and held back from the prevailing culture. They aren't outsiders anymore - they have a place at the table - so they are assuming the attitudes of their Mainstream Protestant peers.
Something similar happened to Catholics. They have assimilated to the ways of neighbors who once excluded them. The Catholic hierarchy makes the Church's situation a little different, but upscale Catholics aren't different from their upscale Protestant peers.
Mormons are the descendants of the Puritans, figuratively and sometimes literally, so they have inherited and maintain many of the attitudes of the Puritans and look haughty and self-righteous to outsiders. They are also an entrepreneurial people, and think that they will benefit from globalization.
You could draw a parallel with Quebec. English Canadians feared losing their culture, such as it was, and weren't enthusiastic about NAFTA. French Canadians, after years of living under the thumb of the English speakers, weren't afraid of losing their culture and were feeling entrepreneurial so they were more likely to support the trade agreement.
Looking at the data
- https://religionnews.com/2015/09/03/are-single-mormon-women-screwed/
- it appears that polygamy may soon return to MormonISM!!
‘officially’
“Ultimately though, the standards Trump actually ends up violating belong to the commies, not the never Trump conservatives.”
This makes no sense. The commies hate America and anyone who denies them power. They object to and hate any Republican President, even the “Presidential” ones. Not just Trump.
“The never Trump conservatives simply have the follower mentality that has bedeviled the GOP for forty years. They have never learned how to take charge and set their own standards so every game is played on the commies field using commie rules.”
Disagree. The problem with Republican politicians in general is that are afraid of the media and want to be liked by them. They hate negative press and fold up instead of fighting. Never Trumpers are usually media types who are used to bad press. They hate Trump because they think his personal behavior reflects badly on the party.
“Geldings like Goldberg have never figured out that will always be a losing proposition. They would have voted for Jeb, whose entire campaign would have been nothing more than a months long concession speech.”
Given a choice between voting for Jeb or Hillary who would you choose?
I stopped reading at “From a recent article by the superb conservative commentator Jonah Goldberg:”
Goldberg is a never Trump rat and so is Romney. A rat is a traitor.
After 3 years of the criminal conspiracy of DemocRats to overthrow Trump for purely partisan purposes, people being upset at Romney’s vindictive vote is the ugliest political spectacle? That’s derangement.
Exactly. It’s chattering class buffoonery. I’m not even going to bother reading it. Comments here are more spot on anything shoveled by the Never Trumpers these days.
Shitbirds of a feather stick together.
Would he have us believe he's that much a fool?
The three Dems in the House who didn’t go along with the rest of them on impeachment? What are they? Answer: Chopped liver.
I don’t know about Jonah Goldberg, but I have heard other “Never Trumpers” say they would rather vote for a Democrat than for Donald Trump. In other words, they would rather turn America into a Communist utopia than to vote for Trump. To me that should be very telling where these Never Trumpers want to head the country.
I despise Jonah Golberg with a white hot passion.
Dear dan Peterson. Bite me.
Quite sincerely, ‘Pod
Maybe the higher levels have been infiltrated by the Democrat/FBI?
LDS = Money and Power! The church they built here in Apex NC oozes of it! Only thing I can compare it to is the church of scientology!
That was the point I was trying to make. Being afraid of the media and trying to appease them is playing by the other side's rules.
Jeb is infinitely preferable to Hillary but he would also lose. I would vote for him as the (much) lesser evil, but I would not hold out any hope of him actually winning.
I quit reading after “by Jonah Goldberg”.
National Review died when Buckley did.
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