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Coronavirus Live Thread 2/12 to 2/13 (yikes)
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Posted on 02/12/2020 3:50:03 PM PST by janetjanet998

14,800 new cases and 242 new deaths

they changed the way they classified cases


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2019ncov; coronavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; kungflu
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To: LilFarmer

Dr Michael Lappin, chair of the WSAVA’s One Health Committee, has encouraged all cat owners to keep their pets indoors for the time being.

Similarly, anyone who has recently travelled to China and is under a self-imposed quarantine was told to keep their pets with them.

Although there is no evidence of pets spreading the coronavirus pathogen at the moment, WSAVA noted this is a “rapidly developing situation”.

Dr Lappin has advised veterinarians to tell pet owners to:

Keep their companion animals with them if they are self-quarantined.
Keep cats inside.
Arrange for care for any animals left at home if family or friends are hospitalised.
Contact their veterinarian immediately if they have questions or concerns...

Dr Lappin said: “There is still much we don’t know about 2019-CoV and, while the priority is to bring the outbreak of the infection caused to people under control as soon as possible, we are concerned for animal welfare with reports of animals being abandoned or killed because their owners fear that they might carry the virus.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1241832/Coronavirus-UK-pets-catch-virus-keep-cats-indoors-vet-advice-symptoms-coronavirus-news


401 posted on 02/13/2020 1:41:46 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

In Shocking Admission, WHO Advisor Says Coronavirus May Infect Over 5 Billion People
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/shocking-admission-who-advisor-says-coronavirus-may-infect-over-5-billion-people
*****

But last week they were playing down the risk. Would not even call it a “pandemic”. My theory- they are communists, therefore in their view we should all share the burden equally. A virus in every pot.


402 posted on 02/13/2020 1:50:52 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

I pity the pets in affected areas of China. Between food shortages and owners in quarantine or worse, many of them are bound to perish.


403 posted on 02/13/2020 1:54:09 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: LilFarmer

CNN - A little slow on the uptake:

“Novel coronavirus can be spread by people who aren’t exhibiting symptoms, CDC director says
From CNN’s Jacqueline Howard
Asymptomatic transmission of the novel coronavirus is possible, Dr. Robert Redfield, director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told CNN.
https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-13-20-intl-hnk/h_8d935a8b6df385aba0cbfdb30cd3aeac


404 posted on 02/13/2020 1:56:05 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: datura
King Co., WA (Seattle). King County health officials have sent suspected coronavirus cases to local motels

https://youtu.be/pRmT7HFiy4A

405 posted on 02/13/2020 2:01:15 PM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: Oorang
That’s just brilliant 🙄
406 posted on 02/13/2020 2:05:26 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

According to the video health officials check on them once a day and bring them whatever they need. I assume that means they are left to their own devices, to come and go, for 23+ hours a day. Of course they are not supposed to, but...


407 posted on 02/13/2020 2:11:42 PM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: LilFarmer

Based on the article I posted from the Uk earlier, this is no surprise. US doctors need to be telling their patients the same.

Didcot Health Centre
@DidcotHealthCen
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If you feel you might have contracted #Coronavirus / #COVID19 (or been in contact) PLEASE do NOT come to the GP surgery!
Instead - Call 111, stay indoors and avoid close contact with other people - please read this link https://nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/
https://twitter.com/DidcotHealthCen


408 posted on 02/13/2020 2:22:12 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: Think free or die

It’s so sad, and the children too, like the disabled boy who died when his father and brother went to the hospital


409 posted on 02/13/2020 2:24:54 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

Scott Gottlieb, MD
@ScottGottliebMD
CDC will begin using the national flu surveillance tracking system with health departments in 5 cities to test patients with flu-like symptoms for #coronavirus. This is an important and prudent step that’ll help identify outbreaks earlier. The cities are SF, LA, ATL, Chicago, NY


410 posted on 02/13/2020 3:34:28 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

Cruise Ship Passenger In Sydney Harbour Being Tested For Coronavirus

The man from Singapore is believed to have fallen ill with a respiratory complaint, The Australian newspaper reports.

The Norwegian Jewel docked at Circular Quay in Sydney early Friday morning having reportedly travelled to other Australian ports.

It had arrived from New Zealand.

The ship has a capacity of 2376 people and 1060 crew.

https://10daily.com.au/news/australia/a200213gamdz/cruise-ship-passenger-in-sydney-harbour-being-tested-for-coronavirus-20200213


411 posted on 02/13/2020 3:42:26 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: Think free or die

“Many of us have camping and backpacking gear in our attics and basements that might not immediately come to mind.”

Watch out, pal. You’re treading very close to a ‘prepping’ mindset, when we know that only (us) nutcases believe in that. For all of the ‘normal’ people know that the government will attend to all of our needs, when all hell breaks loose.

Anyway, as I see it, assuming the worst:

1) We WILL keep utilities running, at least until the very end, and probably through it all. It may take people at gunpoint to keep running the generators, but we’ll do that, if necessary.

2) China will go back to what they were 50 years ago - a backwards, Third World country...or something close to that.

3) Pretty much EVERYTHING we imported from China will not be available, for years - that starts this week with a few empty spots at Walmart (not that I ever go there). Everything with Chinese content, the same - we see that in April (pretty much the end of our pharmaceutical supply). Everything that doesn’t rely on China to produce, but relies on Chinese tooling (such as every remaining car now built in the world), will be hit by late this year.

But don’t be paranoid, after all 10,000 people die of the flu every year...


412 posted on 02/13/2020 3:44:12 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: LilFarmer

News report we heard tonight. Authorities??? are telling tech companies to control “social media” virus “rumors. Swamp censorship alert.


413 posted on 02/13/2020 3:46:08 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Mr. President, We the People, have your back.)
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To: LilFarmer
Many people have said that cytokine storms are sudden, but according to our daily observations from critical medical experts, cytokine storms are not sudden. It is likely to be induced by hypoxia. The same thing is that many people seem to have mild symptoms, shortness of breath, and respiratory distress are not obvious, but in fact, the oxygenation index has decreased significantly, and CT indicates multiple lung fields.   Therefore, in the treatment of new coronary pneumonia, oxygen therapy is very important. Whether it is oxygen inhalation, high-flow oxygen therapy, non-invasive ventilation, or tracheal intubation, it is necessary to ensure that the patient's oxygen is sufficient. If a patient's oxygen supply can be guaranteed in the early stage, his chance of sudden development of severe illness will be a little smaller. At present, the Eighth People's Hospital of Guangzhou City has a pressurized central oxygen supply and the protection is adequate. ...   Therefore, in the treatment of new coronary pneumonia, intensive medicine is very important. It is to maintain the function of each organ of the patient to slowly survive the duration of the virus, including the support of the ventilator to the lung, and ECMO (external membrane pulmonary oxygenation). Support for cardiopulmonary function.   This time with new coronary pneumonia, the virus lasts a long time, and lung failure takes a long time, and it takes a long time to support it. We now have 3 patients on ECMO. Of the 8 patients who were transferred to the Institute, there were also 3 of them. It has been 10 days. No patient has been successfully taken offline yet. Now we are in a quarantine area and we have gathered the three "ace soldiers" of infection, severe illness and breathing, hoping to work together to overcome this disease. https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/-2019-ncov-new-coronavirus/china-2019-ncov/829265-experts-several-clear-early-warning-factors-for-new-coronary-pneumonia-have-been-identified#post829265
414 posted on 02/13/2020 3:52:47 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8002211/Cruise-ship-placed-lockdown-Sydney-Harbour-passenger-tested-coronavirus.html

Also the DM


415 posted on 02/13/2020 3:53:38 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: LilFarmer

The article above mentions ECMO, as a reference, the US has less than 300 ECMO machines.


416 posted on 02/13/2020 3:55:42 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

Person with confirmed coronavirus was at Westminster conference
Organisers rush to trace contacts of participant at UK Bus Summit in QEII Centre

Bethan Staton and Sarah Neville in London an hour ago

...The unknown individual attended the UK Bus Summit at the QEII Centre, one of London’s largest conference halls, in Westminster on February 6.

Transport Times, the conference organisers, emailed attenders on Thursday afternoon on the instruction of Public Health England, informing them that a person confirmed to have the virus had been to the conference...
https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/-2019-ncov-new-coronavirus/england-2019-ncov/826325-england-2019-ncov-cases?p=829264#post829264


417 posted on 02/13/2020 3:58:01 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: BobL
"You’re treading very close to a ‘prepping’ mindset, when we know that only (us) nutcases believe in that."

Ha! I was raised by people who fled the commies with the shirts on their backs. We were taught that the only things that can't be taken from you are what's in your mind and what's in your heart. Learn, live a decent life, and be kind to those around you. You never know when you might be called upon to start over with nothing. Now that we're retired, I would really hate to lose everything and start over, but we value self sufficiency in this household. Nothing new under the sun.

418 posted on 02/13/2020 4:06:39 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: Think free or die

Continued on thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3816298/posts


419 posted on 02/13/2020 4:12:28 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: LilFarmer
"Therefore, in the treatment of new coronary pneumonia, intensive medicine is very important. It is to maintain the function of each organ of the patient to slowly survive the duration of the virus, including the support of the ventilator to the lung, and ECMO (external membrane pulmonary oxygenation)."

I can't see this level of care being available to a large number of patients at once in any of our hospitals. I'd love to hear suggestions from people for home care to help with oxygenation. If this thing hits hard, home care may be all many people will have available.

420 posted on 02/13/2020 4:14:25 PM PST by Think free or die
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