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Coronavirus Live Thread 2/12 to 2/13 (yikes)
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Posted on 02/12/2020 3:50:03 PM PST by janetjanet998

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To: bgill

“Ok, I’ve got to know what is Stage 2? Just type it in tiny font to whisper it.”

LOL - sorry, not into HTML.

My wife is from that part of the world and has a weak immune system, so I’m a bit conservative here.

Stage 1 was to keep her away from large concentrations of people from that part of the world, so I had her do her ‘ethnic’ shopping on Monday morning (rather than the weekends, when she usually goes), virtually empty store. Needless to say, it’s all playing the odds.

Stage 2 is to close out ethnic shopping and minimize all shopping, so going to ‘US’ stores on weekday mornings. Not quire there yet, but watching closely.

Stage 3 would be for her to minimize or eliminate all ethnic contacts (same for me, since if I catch it...not good).

Stage 4 would be to minimize all contacts - I would only do the shopping, and only as much as necessary, with small crowds.

Stage 5 would be pulling it all in and hunkering down. We could do that now for months, but it would be a crappy life, so we’ll wait on it.


421 posted on 02/13/2020 4:27:50 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: riri

“I can’t imagine we WON’T start seeing empty shelves in places very soon.”

Agree...it now begins. Just a whimper, now. Maybe some empty shelf space at Walmart scattered in a few areas (not that I would ever shop there), but then some more empty shelves. And then, once people put two and two together, expect PANIC, as is happening in Asia now.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51486719


422 posted on 02/13/2020 4:31:04 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Oorang; bgill
Well, at least the motel rooms likely have their own a/c units 🙄
423 posted on 02/13/2020 4:31:50 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: BobL
Hmmm...what determines the commencement of Stage 5 🤔

Who makes that call?

424 posted on 02/13/2020 4:34:26 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: Jane Long

“Who makes that call?”

Either myself or (hopefully) the two of us together.


425 posted on 02/13/2020 5:07:56 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

Yeah, it’s just not on the radar her. I suggested to my brother that he stock up for a month, and his reply was he would think about it. I think it will take a death in the community or even family before people start feeling real concern. Then the run on groceries starts.


426 posted on 02/13/2020 5:20:50 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

“I suggested to my brother that he stock up for a month, and his reply was he would think about it. I think it will take a death in the community or even family before people start feeling real concern. Then the run on groceries starts.”

My (very reasonable) wife is fine with me buying a second chest freezer, so as to be able to store another 50+ lbs. of meat and cheese. As I see it, power will be the last to go, but long before that, people will be lining up for food (as they are in China now, and to some extent, in other parts of Asia).

I prefer to not be standing in line, wearing a mask, with others right by me, for hours.


427 posted on 02/13/2020 5:28:36 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

I’m the same. DH and I are very much on the same page - in fact our farm started as a “prep”, turned into a hobby, and now is both, of that makes sense.


428 posted on 02/13/2020 5:36:43 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

China is diagnosing coronavirus patients by looking for ‘ground glass’ in their lungs. Take a look at the CT scans.
Today, 08:06 PM

24 minutes ago Associated Press
Chinese authorities have started diagnosing coronavirus cases in the Hubei province via CT scans.
The scans aren’t as thorough as a blood tests, but doctors in Wuhan, where the virus originated, are reportedly running short on test kits.
To diagnose the virus, physicians look for white patches called “ground glass,” which signal fluid in the lungs.
Authorities in China’s Hubei province reported a dramatic spike in coronavirus cases on Thursday: 14,840 new cases.

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/-2019-ncov-new-coronavirus/china-2019-ncov/-2019-ncov-who-chp-wpro-ecdc-oie-fao-moa-reports-and-updates/829286-china-is-diagnosing-coronavirus-patients-by-looking-for-ground-glass-in-their-lungs-take-a-look-at-the-ct-scans#post829286


429 posted on 02/13/2020 5:48:20 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

Ok, flame me as wish. I have had a few scotches tonight.

Here is my conclusion based on all the evidence so far.

The reason President Trump is not nuking China right now is that he knows and understands that this is a China problem that will not affect the rest of the world.

The reason that Wuhan, Hubei Province is the only real estate on earth being affected by this virus in such a pandemic fashion, is that this was a big mistake on the part of the BL4 lab Win Wuhan.

The BL4 lab in Wuhan worked out a vaccine for SARS. They gave it to everyone in Hubei province. Then they started working on a biological weapon that would affect everyone who did NOT have the vaccine.

The effed up royally. They put in the wrong gene sequence or something, and the new biological weapon only affected those people who HAD the vaccine.

Somehow, this new engineered virus came into contact with the people of Wuhan. Accident or live test, who knows. This is why only people of Wuhan are infected at such a high rate wth this virus, and why travel precautions are focused on this Chinese province.

This explains the less virulent spread of the virus outside Hubei province, whether in other Chinese provinces or in the rest of the world.

And the Trump administration knows this, because they know everything. It’s pretty obvious with the info that is now coming out of China.

Yes, local outbreaks in non=Chinese countries are still possible because of a traveler from Wuhan, and take precautions! But from existing evidence, these infections will be mild.

But there will never be a another place on earth that has the tragedy of Wuhan. This disaster will continue there, and everyone there needs your prayers. And while you are praying for them, pray for the utter destruction of the Chinese Communist Party.


430 posted on 02/13/2020 6:33:12 PM PST by EarlyBird (There's a whole lot of winning going on around here!)
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To: BobL

Cheese is a good idea I hadn’t thought of, although we do have some dried cheese in #10 cans. The real cheese would be very satisfying. I have enough solar to easily run the freezer and hot plates, etc., even if power does go.


431 posted on 02/13/2020 6:39:03 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: LilFarmer

in the meantime, the duke and duchess of Sussex are partying in Hollywood. ;)


432 posted on 02/13/2020 6:41:37 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: steve86

Yea, I read up on cheese. The harder stuff (like cheddar) is good to freeze, just crumbly after, but then if you melt it, it’s fine - and I always do!


433 posted on 02/13/2020 6:42:53 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: justa-hairyape

I wouldn’t look at the ‘fires’ as just human crematoriums. China also has an outbreak of H5N6 bird flu. Killed a bunch of swans first so now they are slaughtering hundreds of thousands of fowl. Also fowl are dying supposedly from lack of feed (must have been 5thousand ducks/chickens dead at one facility). Haven’t seen many cats or dogs on the streets in videos, either. All of that being burned.


434 posted on 02/13/2020 6:57:03 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

“I wouldn’t look at the ‘fires’ as just human crematoriums. China also has an outbreak of H5N6 bird flu.”

I saw a video, they were driving pigs into fire pits. Very sad, but they also have a huge Swine Flu outbreak, and what else could they do on a practical level - kill them one by one and then carry them into the pits? It sucked, but it made sense what they were doing.


435 posted on 02/13/2020 7:22:43 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: lepton

It’s in the chest xrays supposedly. Looks like ground glass in lungs.


436 posted on 02/13/2020 7:36:40 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not a ppear that way.)
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To: janetjanet998

makes perfect sense. Main reason: Two mid-level party members have been offed. The incoming very high ranking party member doesn’t want to inherit the formers’ numbers because he doesn’t want to meet the same fate. And since he’s seen as close to WinniethePooh, it puts Xi on the spot. So...clean the chalkboard and start fresh. Second reason: CT scans couldn’t be backed up by testing because the kits were going to private hospitals before going to Wuhan, who was getting, it was said, less than 3000 kits a day and only tested people could be reported as confirmed. This held the numbers confirmed down. Under new leadership, doctors can now ‘clinically’ diagnose without waiting for a test. Third reason: Nobody trusts the WHO which has already bungled their end, so it’s getting harder and harder not to let CDC in - and with the evacuees, the US has it’s own data now. The numbers have to come up so the hiding of Chinese data doesn’t look so bad. (at least that’s my impression)


437 posted on 02/13/2020 7:37:40 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: LilFarmer
“He has not been swabbed.”

If it takes a while for the virus to move from lower lung to nose, swabbing isn't reliable anyway for early detection. Even reagent assays aren't reliable early on. People make the mistake of hearing something on the news and assuming science knows everything about a virus when medicine is still only a month into this.

438 posted on 02/13/2020 7:45:39 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: BobL

I think a large bag of rice, dried pasta, and some flavoring are a great investment. Maybe some juice. If this passes painlessly, we’ll use it anyway, and it’s less than $50.


439 posted on 02/13/2020 8:01:52 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: LilFarmer

I’ve been trying to figure out what that meant. Thanks for the pictures.


440 posted on 02/13/2020 8:06:20 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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