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To: SeekAndFind

This is obviously just a smart-alecky unserious bill from a pro-abortion gal. They use this asinine rhetoric all the time, “How’d you like it is we restricted YOUR reproductive freedom, huh, huh?? Turn about is fair play.” As if there’s some sort of moral equivalence between PREVENTING the KILLING of a baby and stopping a man from fathering a child. It’s tortured logic that only a brain-dead liberal could love.


26 posted on 02/14/2020 7:22:37 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: irishjuggler

Any woman on welfare ought to have mandatory tubes tying.


33 posted on 02/14/2020 7:26:01 AM PST by oldasrocks (Heavily Medicated for your Protection.)
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To: irishjuggler

Thank you. You said it better, and far more courteously, than I was about to.


44 posted on 02/14/2020 7:35:43 AM PST by chesley (What is life but a long dialog with imbeciles? - Pierre Ryckmans)
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To: irishjuggler

Yep. Plus, someone who demands the right to kill their baby shouldn’t be able to force me, or anyone else, to pay for it either. Abortion is not health care, no matter how they whine, twist, and rage about it.

There is absolutely no equivalence between her crack-addled bill and not being able to kill an unborn child.

Peach


52 posted on 02/14/2020 7:47:42 AM PST by CarolinaPeach
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To: irishjuggler

I agree with you about the intent of this Bill. In the end though, it will actually work against them.

As a man, your reproductive freedom is already severely limited. I know this may anger women who do not want to acknowledge the truth, but here goes anyways.

Men and women are not “equally responsible” for a preganancy. Other than the consent to actually have sex there is no equal responsiblilty.

Women have what? 12 means of birth control (not counting surgery) to prevent pregnancies. Men have one, a condom, which is the least effective of all methods. Trying to say that the responsibility is equal, once sex has been had, is like saying that if a man and a woman are both driving a car, they are equally responsible for having an accident, even if the man has one method (the least effective method) to stop the car and the woman has 12 ways to stop it. Sorry, but not equal culpability.

Also, No pregnancy goes to fruition, leading to a birth, without the consent of a woman. If I were to get a woman pregnant and she wanted to keep the child but I didn’t, she could FORCE me to be a parent and pay child support. Conversely, If I wanted to keep the child, but she didn’t, there is no way that I can FORCE her to carry the child to term and give birth. Yet somehow we are to believe that men have complete reproductive freedom and women don’t? Sorry, not buying it.

And before anyone says, “well, the man can just walk away”, I will address that. Can he just walk away? The states are pretty adept at collecting child support and will garnish wages or jail a man who does not pay. This rarely happens to women, even in the unlikely event she is court ordered to pay support.

This does not mention several other anti-male reproductive policies or laws. Such as, in many states if the wife becomes pregnant during marriage, the husband is presumed to be the father, even if a DNA test proves otherwise. This law exists in AZ, where I live. Many other states have this policy on the books as well.

So, I do not buy into the conventional wisdom that women are victims and men have all of the advantages when the truth is exactly the opposite.


78 posted on 02/14/2020 1:08:48 PM PST by BizBroker ("You may ignore reality, but you may not ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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