Ending Philippines-US military pact will affect South China Sea disputes: analysts

South China Morning Post ^ | 02/16/2020 | Meaghan Tobin

[SeekAndFind]

After years of threatening to abandon the Philippines

[DIRTYSECRET]

DUH!

[Starcitizen]

Dutae already has Communist Chinese PLA Troops in Manila and in Pangasinan (Former Clark/ Subic) on Filipino military bases. He already declared that the Philippines is a Province of China (in jest, but the Chinese-provided Fentanyl he takes is a powerful drug). 2022 can’t come soon enough, but he is already grooming Sara Dutae (daughter) or BongBong Marcos (son of Ferdinand Marcos) to be the next President.

An estimated half-million Communist Chinese legal and illegal workers are now in the Philippines. No one leaves China without Communist Party permission or ties.

[Mariner]

““I really don’t mind, if they would like to do that,” Trump said on Wednesday. “We’ll save a lot of money.”

Trump called the bluff.

Because the people of the PI identify with the US.

Duterte is likely to find himself shot by “domestic stakeholders”. He increases his chances of survival by eating crow and trying to salvage what he can.

[Mariner]

“Chinese PLA Troops in Manila and in Pangasinan (Former Clark/ Subic) on Filipino military bases”

Can you cite a source for that?

[Mariner]

No, of course not.

Because it isn’t true.

There is no PLA in the PI. None.

[gandalftb]

More than 3 million Chinese allowed entry into Philippines since 2016 — Immigration data
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https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2018/06/09/1823064/more-3-million-chinese-allowed-entry-philippines-2016-immigration-data

[Billthedrill]

“If the mutual defense treaty collapses, it would be a huge win for China,” Grossman said. “This would send exactly the wrong message to Washington’s remaining allies and partners – that is, you simply shouldn’t trust that the US will defend or assist you against China, and it is therefore right to question the value of the American presence in the Indo-Pacific in the years to come.”

I fail to follow the logic - the message to our remaining allies and partners is that if you cancel our treaty, we'll leave? I should think that reassuring, myself. If we do return it will be a mutual decision based on mutual interests, not any obligation the U.S. has undertaken to keep other people's waters free on principle. It's an expensive principle.

[Starcitizen]

I call bullshit on that. 3 million filthy Communist Chekwa “workers” in the Philippines and they are not “PLA“? About as funny as the Communist Chinese H1Bs and students in the USA not having either ties to the Communist Party of China or not being members outright in the PLA. Hint: the US Government caught lots of the these Communists already. Unfortunately, they weren’t killed, and merely jailed or deported.

Why don’t you start reading Filipino Press NOT controlled by Dutae and the Communist Chinese government (the Philippines government has been caught releasing news that came directly from the Communist Chinese). Rappler and ABS-CBN to start. Not from Mocha Uson or DDS or Manila Times. That’s some strong pro-Communist garbage you are pushing here If you deny this is happening. Merely casino workers? Right...

https://globalnation.inquirer.net/179045/chinese-casinos-near-ph-military-camps-worry-dnd

Amongst others.

[Mariner]

Without uniform, weapons and flag, they are not PLA.

They are spies.

Enormous difference.

One lost on you.

[DEPcom]

I do not think China be a threat much longer due to the virus.

Will the Chinese citizen be so upset at the lost of love ones, to rise up against the communist system?

[GailA]

Good Job Mr President I like saving millions.

[Svartalfiar]

Without uniform, weapons and flag, they are not PLA.

They are spies.

Enormous difference.

One lost on you.

Huh? And who do you think these spies report to? Who is paying them? It's not the PLA is it?


US Special Forces are often embedded in enemy or other countries, do you think they constantly wear a uniform with our flag? Carry all sorts of weapons? Are they not part of USSOCOM when they conduct such missions?

[Starcitizen]

https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/05/20/a-good-number-of-chinese-military-in-ph-lacson-claims-citing-reports