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Bat cave solves mystery of deadly SARS virus — and suggests new outbreak could occur [December 2017 article nailed it]
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Posted on 03/31/2020 9:17:13 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

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To: Bigtigermike

We should mark all debt to China “paid in full”.


41 posted on 04/01/2020 4:31:37 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for our country and President Trump)
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To: Bigtigermike

Sorry, wrong thread.


42 posted on 04/01/2020 4:32:29 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for our country and President Trump)
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To: Bigtigermike
“To clinch the case, a team led by Shi Zheng-Li and Cui Jie of the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China sampled thousands of horseshoe bats in locations across the country.”

She Zheng-Li, from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Surely I believe everything she has to say..

43 posted on 04/01/2020 4:56:21 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: jonrick46

Not this BS again...


44 posted on 04/01/2020 5:03:35 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Bigtigermike
...killing almost 800 people around the world.


Piker!


45 posted on 04/01/2020 5:03:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: snarkytart

Mammals the size of squirrels that fly.

Rocky is not impressed.


46 posted on 04/01/2020 5:05:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Chgogal

Or the lab needs to quit selling their specimens to the wet market for profit


47 posted on 04/01/2020 5:13:14 AM PDT by nevermorelenore ( If My people will pray .)
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To: Bigtigermike


Hurry, Robin! Let's seal up the cave! We've got an image to maintain!
48 posted on 04/01/2020 5:16:18 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Easy. Build a wall. Implement extreme vetting, like they used to have on Ellis Island, only better.


49 posted on 04/01/2020 5:18:29 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: malach

Alfred fought bravely, Robin. He will be remembered. But for now, run an ad for a butler who can keep secrets.


50 posted on 04/01/2020 5:22:16 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: Travis McGee
800 miles from Wuhan wet markets.

Another outstanding question is how a virus from bats in Yunnan could travel to animals and humans around 1,000 kilometres away in Guangdong, without causing any suspected cases in Yunnan itself. That “has puzzled me a long time”, says Tu.

That's a little Tu Fah.

51 posted on 04/01/2020 5:46:06 AM PDT by McGruff (It came from China)
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To: Elsie


You want to do WHAT to my friend?!
52 posted on 04/01/2020 5:58:52 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: nevermorelenore

That’s fun AND profit, gueh.


53 posted on 04/01/2020 6:00:02 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: Zhang Fei

The bat caves in Africa were sealed off to people. Apparently it’s not just eating the bats, but visiting bat caves with deep guano can transfer their zoonotic diseases to humans.

Of course, selling diseased bats at the markets and slaughtering g them in unsanitary conditions makes it a million times more likely people will encounter the disease.

But Ebola proves a highly contagious disease starting in bats doesn’t require bat consumption to spread.


54 posted on 04/01/2020 6:35:17 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

[The bat caves in Africa were sealed off to people. Apparently it’s not just eating the bats, but visiting bat caves with deep guano can transfer their zoonotic diseases to humans.

Of course, selling diseased bats at the markets and slaughtering g them in unsanitary conditions makes it a million times more likely people will encounter the disease.

But Ebola proves a highly contagious disease starting in bats doesn’t require bat consumption to spread.]


After all the future precautions they’re gonna need to harvest these critters, the price will probably be like Kobe beef. $100 per lb or more. There’s an enlightening description of what bats taste like, along with a none-too-appetizing picture at the link:

http://www.orangesmile.com/extreme/en/disgusting-food/index.htm
[In many Asian countries, a soup of bats remains a popular delicacy. There are numerous fans of this exotic treats in the Fiji Islands. The main feature of the dish is to cook whole bats. The treat is also served to the table with an uncut animal. The price of this delicatessen is quite high, so not everyone can enjoy it.

Boiled Bat in Lutukina Restaurants, Fiji To prepare the dish, chefs have to work hard. The thing is that the meat of the bat has a strong and rather unpleasant odor. To get rid of it, carcasses of bats are long soaked in a special sauce of chili and garlic. This exotic delicacy is quite common in Vietnam, where there are many ways to cook bats. Animals are caught in the numerous caves and then delivered to the restaurant, where chefs cook real culinary masterpieces.

Bats are not only added to the soup. They are also fried, and then served to the table with a spicy sauce. A special exotic supplement to the dish is a glass with the blood decanted during cutting a bat. Such dishes may seem simply awful for many Europeans, but in Asia they have a lot of fans. In Asian restaurants, if guests feel uncomfortable, it’s always offered to cut the carcass of a bat to make the dish not so scary. The treat is sure to appeal to all fans of spicy dishes. Experienced gourmets say that taste of bat’s meat is very similar to chicken.]


Maybe we should look into blood plasma from Fijians and other natives of the South Pacific as the basis of a potential vaccine. It sounds like bat is an everyday entree for Pacific Islanders vs the rare very expensive medicinal concoction it seems to be to Chinese connoisseurs.


55 posted on 04/01/2020 7:08:49 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I found a link to reviews about a joint in Palau that serves fruit bat soup. Fascinating takes, and the closest I’ll ever get to dining on anything this exotic:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g294136-d1130948-r202829952-Carp_Restaurant-Koror_Koror_Island.html


56 posted on 04/01/2020 7:12:33 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei
...it’s always offered to cut the carcass of a bat to make the dish not so scary.

Scary? What about these giant bugs?


57 posted on 04/01/2020 7:31:47 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Contrast that with the dietary restrictions of the ancient Hebrews, which seem calculated to prevent the consumption of disease-carrying animals.

Yes. Although there are lengthy volumes detailing Kashrut (kosher food laws and practices) which I have not consulted, a rabbi said in a talk I attended that the purpose behind following the dietary restrictions is not for hygienic and disease avoidance reasons---but simply to follow the commands of God. These were not compiled by sages who observed effects of various animals upon illness trends. Meat and dairy separation was to honor ending animal cruelty (that a tiny chance of a baby calf being prepared in the mother's own milk existed). No use of hind quarter beef was to honor Jacob who hurt his sciatic nerve wrestling with the angel of God.

Without microscopes or any modern knowledge, the ruling out of shrimp took away the diseases that shrimp pick up from eating the bottom droppings, and the diseases of pigs and predatory birds and sharks. Much later it was found these spread diseases.

Amazing story.

58 posted on 04/01/2020 8:19:07 AM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: DoodleBob

Das Blinkenlights!!!


59 posted on 04/01/2020 8:56:39 AM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Bat guano is used as a fertilizer. It’s very potent.


60 posted on 04/01/2020 8:56:57 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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