Posted on 04/07/2020 3:21:34 PM PDT by nbenyo
Going from 20 or so at home deaths per day, to 220 at home deaths per day, needs some sort of explanation.
You have a better explanation for a X 10 increase in at home deaths?
That is tragic. May she find peace at last. Godspeed.
But I hope this kind of thing doesn’t lead some malevolent folks to help an elderly relative along ...
“If these NYC numbers are true, it is absolutely shocking — the at-home death rate is 10X what it normally is? That is very hard to believe. Perhaps people go to sleep saying “it feels like the flu; I’ll feel better after I get some sleep” and just don’t wake up again.”
People with non-critical symptoms are being told to stay home and self-monitor. It’s a form of triage which is fatal for some people.
That is a problem for your family, particularly if there is an estate. Could be tied up for years without an autopsy. How in the world was a death certificate made if the coroner wasn’t involved? You may not have all the facts right.
Those people are heroes beyond measure. War heroes.
God bless and protect them.
Re: Death Rates
The CDC tracks “Total USA Deaths” - “Pneumonia Deaths” - “Influenza Deaths” - on a spreadsheet each week.
Each category has dropped by a large amount in the last few weeks - at the same time, COVID-19 deaths have exploded.
It’s complex to get to those stats - they cover each week from 2013-2020.
(1) https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/pastreports.htm
(2) Click on “GO” to “Current Weekly Influenza Report”
(3) It’s a very long page - scroll almost to the bottom.
(4) Locate header “Pneumonia and Influenza (P&I) Mortality”
(5) Locate chart for “Pneumonia and Influenza (P&I) Mortality”
(6) Below the chart, click on “View Chart Data”
(7) Click on “OPEN” - the spreadsheet will appear in a new Window on your computer - there is no URL
(8) Column “F” is “All Deaths” - Column “G” is “Pneumonia Deaths” - Column “H” is “Influenza Deaths”
She had been feeling ill for several days. Not the classic COVID-19 symptoms but fatigue, back pains, slight fever. My brother and nephews urged her to get to the hospital but she did not want to go on account of what was going on . I think a lot of other people are in a similar situation and dying at home as a result.
I’m so sorry.
“Don’t worry, plenty of people who likely died from other causes have been counted as Covid-19 patients... So that will make up for it.”
The number should be low on our concerns. People should not be dying at home with no treatment. Telling people to self monitor sucks. It’s not always easy to judge your condition when you’re sick.
From what I have been reading elsewhere, the disease appears to cause hypoxia. The victim loses the ability to oxygenate their blood. It could cause someone to go to sleep and not wake up.
Was she having trouble breathing?
You have a better explanation for a X 10 increase in at home deaths?
Please see my earlier post.
People today are spending almost every minute of their lives in their own homes. We're not dying of a medical issue at our jobs or in our cars; we're dying in our homes.
Putting a statement about a tenfold increase in the number of deaths in the home without any context is simply click-bait. (Someone can run a headline touting the dramatic decrease in automobile fatalities that has taken place over the past two weeks as well; it's just as meaningless without the context.)
Re: But I would like to see a comparison of how many have died in the last 2 months or so from heart attacks, cancer, etc. for comparison to previous years averages.
Please see my Comment #66.
It links to a weekly CDC spreadsheet for total USA deaths, pneumonia deaths, and influenza deaths.
Each week from 2013-2020.
Warning - getting to the spreadsheet is a complex journey.
I lived during the Asian Flu. Killed 116,000 in the US. Population of US was 177,751,476.I lived through the Hong Kong flu. Killed 100,000 in the US. Population of US at that time was 205,805,755.
Population today is around 333,000,00 or more depending who is actually counted or not. CV deaths approximately 12,021 if counted correctly. I am sure you can do the percentage math.
I would much rather suffocate under sedation in a hospital than suffocate without at home.
I think your theory explains some of the increase, but 10 X?
Even so, I think the real numbers can be shaken out. We just need to know the total number of deaths for an ordinary day in New York before the virus hit.
Then compare them to the current deaths per day, and see what is the difference in quantity.
How many die everyday in NYC?
Even so, I think the real numbers can be shaken out. We just need to know the total number of deaths for an ordinary day in New York before the virus hit.
I agree. I don't think my considerations would explain all of the jump we've seen, but I think the "10 X" figure is not only disconcerting, it's inaccurate.
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