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More than 2,200 coronavirus deaths in nursing homes, but federal government isn't tracking them
NBC "News" / Comcast ^ | April 10, 2020 | By Suzy Khimm, Laura Strickler, Andrew Blankstein and Peter Georgiev

Posted on 04/11/2020 5:48:38 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Nearly 2,500 long-term care facilities in 36 states are battling coronavirus cases, according to data gathered by NBC News from state agencies, an explosive increase of 522 percent compared to a federal tally just 10 days ago.

The total dwarfs the last federal estimate on March 30 - based on “informal outreach” to state health departments - that more than 400 nursing homes had at least one case of the virus.

The full scale of the virus’ impact is even greater than NBC News’ tally, as key states including Florida did not provide data, and nursing homes across the United States are still struggling for access to testing.

The toll of these outbreaks is growing. NBC News tallied 2,246 deaths associated with long-term care facilities, based on responses from 24 states. This, too, is an undercount; about half of all states said they could not provide data on nursing home deaths, or declined to do so. Some states said they do not track these deaths at all.

Nursing home residents are among those most likely to die from the coronavirus, given their advanced age and the prevalence of other health conditions. But the federal government does not keep a formal tally of the number of coronavirus deaths in nursing homes or the number of facilities with infections, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said.

Experts say more comprehensive data is critical to battling the virus and understanding why it is spreading faster in some nursing homes than others.

“It’s impossible to fight and contain this virus if we don’t know where it’s located,” said David Grabowski, a professor of health care policy at Harvard Medical School.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; death; disease; elderly; journalism; media; nursinghomes; virus; whitetrash
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1 posted on 04/11/2020 5:48:38 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I wonder how many Chinese died in their homes but not documented by the government there, NBC? Inquiring minds would like to know.


2 posted on 04/11/2020 5:53:16 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

clever.

gates, fauci, clinton, pelosi elected to murder Americans
so that the dead would vote, from their graves, as
Democrats (without their choice) FOREVER.


3 posted on 04/11/2020 5:55:17 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Were they Coronavirus victims, DWP, DWPP?

(Died While Positive/Died While Presumed Positive)

In NYS Cuomo and the legislature just passed a law, snuck into the budget, to protect nursing homes from civil and criminal action.

I’m wondering if it’s because NYS doesn’t want to have a public argument about what exactly counts as a WuFlu death.


4 posted on 04/11/2020 5:57:50 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The medical racket doesn’t care about the residents and continues to enjoy hiring drug addicts to care for them. Drug screen the employees, and frequently do random tests on them afterwards. Obesity is a problem, too. Nurses’ aides need to have some extent of healthy metabolism and ability to move around.


5 posted on 04/11/2020 6:08:03 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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just as all the models were exposed as being exaggerated, and the CDC’s guidance to include everything as COVID was revealed, the FakeNewsMSM has ignored it all and come up with stories of invisible deaths, false negative testing, and mass graves.

plus experts all say America has to be locked down for 18 months, until a vaccine is ready, or else everyone will die, and Trump will be responsible.


6 posted on 04/11/2020 6:13:46 AM PDT by MAGAthon ( Fauc)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Whatsa’ matter, NBC? Death numbers not high enough for you? Gotta make Trump look bad, right? Don’t forget to count flu deaths, too. You know, just to pad the numbers as coronavirus-like deaths...


7 posted on 04/11/2020 6:14:43 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Apparently the democrats have never visited a nursing home lately.


8 posted on 04/11/2020 6:15:01 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The one high quality assisted living I am very familiar with has had one death. The deceased was not tested, just assumed, because they had symptoms and some staff and residents have been tested and have it.

I'll see what happens there, but from what I have read elsewhere, the cases of high numbers of deaths have all been shitholes. To be clear, most medicaid nursing homes and many rehabs like the Canterbury in Richmond can vary. That place has a very low end Medicaid ward with poor treatment. They get good Google reviews only because of the high end rehab areas. Any place that takes Medicaid is almost guaranteed to be underfunded, short staffed, and an oxy warehouse. No question people die prematurely (but perhaps not very prematurely) at places like those even without COVID.

9 posted on 04/11/2020 6:15:47 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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Link is from Upstate NY. Note the bit about the locals being excluded from the phone call with the state...

Steuben County reports mass outbreak of COVID-19 at Hornell nursing home with 46 new cases

So much for transparency. WTH is NYS doing?! And does it have anything with the recently passed law that allows nursing homes in NYS to escape criminal and civil liability.

10 posted on 04/11/2020 6:17:41 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: familyop

Minimum wage is partly to blame. It makes it harder than heck to pay better employees what they’re worth.


11 posted on 04/11/2020 6:19:00 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What is the normal death rate in nursing homes for similar time periods in previous years? People should be asking critical thinking questions like this.


12 posted on 04/11/2020 6:21:08 AM PDT by captain_dave
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To: OttawaFreeper

The bad numbers are going down so now the enemedia is digging for bad numbers in nursing homes and at-home deaths. Anything to keep the panic going.

So far, in Texas, the reported fatality rate is 1.94%, the confirmed/tested rate is 10.07% and the recovery rate is 11.7%. In Harris County, with the most confirmed cases (3047), the fatality rate is 1.12% and the recovery rate is 13.78%.

These statistics are not worth shutting down Texas and the governor should be the first to open the state back up on Monday.


13 posted on 04/11/2020 6:28:51 AM PDT by Savage Rider
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What is the normal death rate in nursing homes for similar time periods in previous years? People should be asking critical thinking questions like this.

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The question is would they have died when they did if they didn’t contract the virus. It certainly seems like many elderly lives were cut short because of this virus.

Whether it is the unborn we are fighting for or the elderly, we need to do everything practically possible to protect them. In the case of the elderly it would seem to be unduly cruel to isolate them from society for the next 12 months until a vaccine (which they can get for the flu or pneumonia) arrives. From this standpoint Trump should have a major push going on to get as many simple, quick testing machines made as soon as possible so anyone coming in contact with the elderly can be tested beforehand.


14 posted on 04/11/2020 6:30:40 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: mewzilla

BTTT.


15 posted on 04/11/2020 6:48:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: mewzilla

BTTT.


16 posted on 04/11/2020 7:39:04 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break oi FWIWut the mustard seeds.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is a perfect example of what Dr’s Carson and Ioannidis have been talking about.


17 posted on 04/11/2020 7:46:30 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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>>What is the normal death rate in nursing homes for similar time periods in previous years? People should be asking critical thinking questions like this.<<

Oh, come on. When this stuff gets loose in a nursing home, what would you expect? Virtually everyone is high risk and staff is moving through the entire place all day long.

The best we can hope for is that something like HCQ is both an effective treatment AND is actually administered in time.

But to question whether this is normal? That’s a stretch...and a half.


18 posted on 04/11/2020 8:23:01 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: OttawaFreeper

No surprise on the nursing homes deaths. I’m sure the facility makes the most of it though with their Medicare piñatas.


19 posted on 04/11/2020 8:33:18 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety (9)
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To: Savage Rider

Please define the fatality rate that you have cited.


20 posted on 04/11/2020 8:35:01 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety (9)
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