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WA: Man shot, critically injured in University Place after allegedly jumping a couple
thenewstribune.com ^ | 21 April, 2020 | Stacia Glenn

Posted on 04/25/2020 7:19:13 AM PDT by marktwain

The victim and his girlfriend told detectives they were walking west on 40th Street West when they noticed two men who appeared to be following them.

They allegedly stopped at one point to allow the men to pass, but the suspects also stopped.

“He said the suspect grabbed him by the throat and said, ‘This is how it’s gonna go down,’” sheriff’s spokesman Ed Troyer said.

The victim told deputies he was afraid for his life and shot the other man once or twice.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; crime; defense; wounding
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The armed victim and one of the assailants were both wounded. It is unclear how the armed victim was shot.
1 posted on 04/25/2020 7:19:14 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Good job. Probably shot himself in the leg during the scuffle. I know what I would have done, but won’t post it here.


2 posted on 04/25/2020 7:21:33 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

In a deadly threat situation, one must continue to fire until the threat is neutralized. The perp might have a gun holstered on his ankle and pull it and kill you after you merely wound him. Can’t be too careful. Literally. Fully neutralize the threat.

That’s what I’ve read and heard. Any contrary legal opinions out there?


3 posted on 04/25/2020 7:29:33 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (BOYCOTT CHINA! - spread the word .... (China is the Sick Man of Asia with a very small penis))
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To: marktwain

Grabbed his throat.
Said, “this is how it’s gonna go down.”

Defense: the “assailant” was about to feed him?


4 posted on 04/25/2020 7:32:07 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

That’s a pretty nice neighborhood. I shop at Trader Joes around the corner all the time.


5 posted on 04/25/2020 7:34:36 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (BOYCOTT CHINA! - spread the word .... (China is the Sick Man of Asia with a very small penis))
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"“He said the suspect grabbed him by the throat and said, ‘This is how it’s gonna go down,’”

Ah ha... Had my hopes up but, apparently, the suspect COULDN'T tell the future.

6 posted on 04/25/2020 7:42:17 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Uncle Miltie

Had a cop friend once told me that the proper answer to the inevitable question “Why did you have to shoot him six times?” was “Because I was in fear of my life and only had six chambers.”


7 posted on 04/25/2020 7:45:19 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Well maybe it used to be a pretty nice neighborhood.
8 posted on 04/25/2020 7:46:23 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“I know what I would have done, but won’t post it here.”

Clint Smith says “Shoot em in the crotch”.


9 posted on 04/25/2020 7:50:27 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (It's no coincidence that the DemocRAT/media complex always sides with America's enemies.)
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To: marktwain
An old habit from my time in Vietnam: Shoot once to drop him and then shoot him three more times to make sure he stays down.

A little rough on ducks, bur old habits die hard.

10 posted on 04/25/2020 7:50:52 AM PDT by Chainmail (Remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: marktwain

Nice shootin’, Tex.

I like a feel-good story.

Glad to see YOUNG people from a LIBERAL state like WA exercising their natural rights.


11 posted on 04/25/2020 7:54:42 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Have the homeless spread to this area yet?


12 posted on 04/25/2020 7:56:28 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world but loses his soul?)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I think that’s BS. It may be easier for you legally (but not perfect), but practically, it’s not always true someone will kill you regardless. Assess the situation yourself.

We had this discussion some time back. Nice to finally see other people take up the side that you don’t have to kill to succeed here.


13 posted on 04/25/2020 7:58:35 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: marktwain

“When You Have to Shoot, Shoot” etc, etc, etc.....


14 posted on 04/25/2020 8:02:54 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Winning not whining!)
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... he was afraid for his life and shot the other man once or twice.

So, was it once or twice? Why stop then?

"Why did you shoot him eight times?"

"That was all the ammunition I had."

15 posted on 04/25/2020 8:18:29 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Bill Allard confronted an armed robber in a market and shouted the command, “Police! Drop your weapon!” The gunman swung on Allard, who shot the gunman in the chest with a blast of 00 buckshot from his 14-inch-barreled Ithaca Model 37 12 gauge shotgun. The man jerked back away from him, still wielding the gun, and Allard pumped another blast of 00 buckshot through his thorax. The gunman was still up and running. Allard’s partner (an officer other than Cirillo that day) then deliberately shot the suspect in the butt with his .38 Special revolver to break his pelvis and bring him down. The .38 did exactly that, and the suspect sprawled on his face, dropping his .32 semi-auto.

Allard lowered his shotgun to a low-ready position and slowly moved in on the downed man. Suddenly, the gunman snatched up the dropped pistol and tried to roll over and bring it to bear to kill Allard, who simply pulled his own trigger and hammered a third round of buckshot into the man’s chest. The suspect dropped the gun for the last time, and the fight was over.

https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2014/10/5-gunfighting-myths-debunked-massad-ayoob/

Can’t be too careful.


16 posted on 04/25/2020 8:19:44 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (BOYCOTT CHINA! - spread the word .... (China is the Sick Man of Asia with a very small penis))
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

It’s what the Israeli IDF does. They use modified Ruger 10-22’s for urban sniper defense and that’s exactly what they do; either to the knees or right in the crotch.


17 posted on 04/25/2020 8:34:47 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Uncle Miltie

With that account, makes one wonder about the efficacy of 12 ga 00 buck...


18 posted on 04/25/2020 8:34:57 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: marktwain

“ ‘This is how it’s gonna go down,’”

....... apparently not, my fine young man.


19 posted on 04/25/2020 9:00:21 AM PDT by semaj (We are the People!)
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.With that account, makes one wonder about the efficacy of 12 ga 00 buck...”

...... unless hit in an immediately vital area, death is not always instantaneous. Unlike movie portrayals where people die instantly. There is still a lot of life in some animals, and they can take a long time to give up the ghost.


20 posted on 04/25/2020 9:07:02 AM PDT by semaj (We are the People!)
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