[Spktyr]

Yes, but the Carrollton production gear went in part to *Ireland*. China wasn’t the first outsourcing country for US companies. I was also pointing out that local asshats can also drive off industry, so we shouldn’t just be blaming ‘greedy executives’ or ‘foreign blandishments.’ Some of the blame must be placed on the people who run off industry.

I won’t disagree about there being less tech manufacture in the States than there used to be. I was simply pointing out that Apple’s Austin, TX investment wasn’t just a tiny marginal one to make the Mac Pro, nor was it really just recent.

[Dr. Sivana]

Yes, but the Carrollton production gear went in part to *Ireland*.

I'm for tariffs, but they must be thought through. Many years ago some company that made laptop LCD screens in Oregon lobbied and got a tariff on LCD screens from Ireland imposed. After the tariff, (I think it was Apple) just started having the whole dang laptop made in Ireland to avoid the tariff.

We also import Coca-Cola from Mexico in part because sugar tariffs make HFCS cheaper to use in U.S. Coke, but bottled stuff with real sugar from south of the border is not subject to the sugar tariff.