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Newly released Ahmaud Arbery video shows 2017 shoplifting arrest
The New York Post ^ | May 19, 2020 | Jorge Fitz-Gibbon

Posted on 05/19/2020 12:34:28 PM PDT by tlozo

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To: TomServo

Yes. He was offered a full scholarship to Princeton in the pre M.D. program.
A genius, and pure as the driven snow. That is why he was killed, trying to disarm a trigger happy KKK clan member.


41 posted on 05/19/2020 2:00:50 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (A deep and terrible ignorance born of abject corruption is required to hate our president.)
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To: TomServo

Yes. He was offered a full scholarship to Princeton in the pre M.D. program.
A genius, and pure as the driven snow. That is why he was killed, trying to disarm a trigger happy KKK clan member. The actions of a good Samaritan, just trying to spread love around the world.


42 posted on 05/19/2020 2:02:09 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (A deep and terrible ignorance born of abject corruption is required to hate our president.)
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To: livius

you’re cluelessly spewing the liberal position without knowing any facts.

arbery attacked McM and tried to take the gun. That’s all that matters.


43 posted on 05/19/2020 2:03:59 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Dr. Sivana

Well, with monks the robes probably covered up their fashion faux pas most of the time...


44 posted on 05/19/2020 2:05:08 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: McGruff

Just a jogger.


45 posted on 05/19/2020 2:11:08 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: tlozo

Outcome of arrest is not clear:

He got off with a defense of high anziety & some other such mental nonsense.

The father who was involved in the shooting was involved in the shoplifting case & recognized jogger on sight.


46 posted on 05/19/2020 2:14:34 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: conservative98

What tv? I don't know nothing about no TV homeslice.

47 posted on 05/19/2020 2:16:09 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: Tommy Revolts
What thug is stupid enough to jump a redneck with a shotgun?


What redneck with a shotgun is stupid enough to make a citizens arrest of a black thug?
48 posted on 05/19/2020 2:17:01 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( Stop the fearmongering! Post flu statistics along side COVID-19 statistics!)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

What did you or he expect when he physically attacked and clearly attempted to disarm a neighbor holding a shotgun? Was it expected that the neighbor just hand it over to someone the suspected as casing and or possibly burglarizing the neighborhood?


49 posted on 05/19/2020 2:28:39 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: tlozo

This is nothing! Every jogger has a plethora of unreleased security cam footage of various incidents, including trespassing, shoplifting, and belligerence in public parks. Nothing burger.


50 posted on 05/19/2020 2:29:42 PM PDT by KobraKai
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To: dragnet2

Or wanted to drink from a hose.


51 posted on 05/19/2020 2:43:34 PM PDT by Linda Tripp (America's Best Best Friend)
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To: Jeff Chandler

All those documents are now DELETED. Saint Arbery Protection Society (SAPS0 in action?


52 posted on 05/19/2020 2:54:01 PM PDT by House Atreides (It is not a HOAX but it IS CERTAINLY A PRETEXT.)
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To: livius
They didn’t intend for this to happen, but as an LE family member says, never carry a gun unless you’re ready to use it, and I think they probably didn’t intend to use it but the situation got away from them.

The situation got away from them? I guess that's the nice way to say the, "Jogger" went out of his way to physically attack and attempted to disarm the neighbor!

53 posted on 05/19/2020 2:54:25 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: tlozo

Say what? The cops asked a question about a stolen TV and got a Butterfly McQueen answer? Oh, this was in Georgia? That figures.


54 posted on 05/19/2020 2:55:45 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( #ReasonableDemocratsforTrump. Where are you?)
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To: tlozo

The Gentle Jogger, Saint Skitters


55 posted on 05/19/2020 2:57:19 PM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: tlozo

That yahoo defense team sure is busy trying to corrupt the potential jury pool.........


56 posted on 05/19/2020 2:59:02 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: hanamizu

I don’t see any evidence of any illegal activity on anyone’s part before the confrontation. Arbery may have been looking to burglarize the construction site, but he didn’t actually do so. And there’s nothing illegal about asking someone what they’re doing out in public regardless of whether you suspect they’ve committed a crime or not.

The crux of this whole issue lies in what took place during the confrontation. Was Abery aggressive? Maybe; maybe not. We don’t know. We have one side of a story and video from a distance and a bad angle with a truck in the way that was apparently recorded using a potatoe. Was this an innocent misunderstanding? Maybe, maybe not, we weren’t there. Did the McMichaels confront Arbery with ill or hostile intent? No idea, I can’t look inside their heads and we don’t have any real evidence either way. Again, we have their side of the story and we have a guy who’s dead and we have a video that was apparently shot with the same camera that gave us the Zapruder film.

That’s why I think a trial is absolutely warranted here: we know a man is dead, but we don’t know exactly why. We have the stories of the McMichaels, but no clear and obvious evidence (like a clear video of the confrontation from start to finish with clear audio) to tell us who had what intent, who was provocative or aggressive, and who may have had the better claim to self defense. I can sit here and say that if I were lawfully holding a firearm and someone tried to snatch it away from me, I would certainly defend myself. I can also say that if I found myself unexpectedly faced with someone who was armed and I firmly believed (based on their demeanor, words, body language, etc.) that they were about to kill me with it, I would be doing everything I could to take it from them to prevent that. The video we have doesn’t tell us nearly enough about this situation to provide a clear case of self defense, so we need a trial.

The purpose of a trial is to lay out all the available evidence and see whether one or both of the McMichaels are guilty of any criminal action beyond a reasonable doubt. With what we have in front of us today, we don’t know that they’re guilty of anything and we don’t know they’re innocent either. A trial is the best way to establish the facts and apply the law. If the state can’t prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the McMichaels violated Georgia law, they should walk.


57 posted on 05/19/2020 3:33:42 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

By the way, there’s a pretty good breakdown of the video we do have of the confrontation here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywenRJU0qdE


58 posted on 05/19/2020 3:50:47 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

I think you’ve laid out the situation quite well.


59 posted on 05/19/2020 4:00:14 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: dragnet2

No, to me it looks like they challenged him. He wasn’t a neighbor...neither of them lived there. Then he got scared because of the shotgun and tried to get it away from them. Also, they had a history and he had had run-ins with the older man (the father).

In any case, it was an accident that he got shot, but they shouldn’t have been doing this armed patrol on their own initiative anyway.


60 posted on 05/19/2020 4:37:10 PM PDT by livius
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