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1 posted on 05/22/2020 7:54:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Two words: Bull Sh*t!


2 posted on 05/22/2020 7:56:02 AM PDT by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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>> were up to twice as likely to die than those in the control group, which received standard, supportive care, the researchers found.

placebo works?!!


3 posted on 05/22/2020 7:56:28 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019)l)
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I wonder if Big Pharma had a lot to do with this bogus poll?


4 posted on 05/22/2020 7:57:04 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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Well, unless you're Amy Klobuchar's husband [hydroxychloroquine], or Chris Cuomo [quinine].

Then, it's ALL GOOD!!!

5 posted on 05/22/2020 7:58:16 AM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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Another day, another crap study brought to you by Big Pharma puppets and lefty losers who don’t want people to get better.

It’s so sad, that we live in a world where people are scheming to deceive, every minute of every hour of every day.


6 posted on 05/22/2020 7:58:25 AM PDT by FreedomVsControl
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No zinc. More BS.

As Judy Mikovits has exposed, all these supposed “top” journals are corrupt.


7 posted on 05/22/2020 7:58:27 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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It *can’t* be true, because we don’t want it to be! We want out own facts! What the hell does The Lancet know? Fake News!


9 posted on 05/22/2020 7:59:30 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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"People with severe illness caused by the new coronavirus"

Right, it's an anti-viral. It must be given early before the damage is done. Once the damage is done and you already have severe damage from the virus, the HCQ won't do anything except potentially cause problems.

Give it early, not as a last resort.

So says Dr. Chris Martenson PHD Pathology, and I believe him.

10 posted on 05/22/2020 7:59:50 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Brian P. Dunleavy goes on The List for the hemp cure.


11 posted on 05/22/2020 8:00:13 AM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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[[[People with severe illness caused by the new coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, treated with either drug]]]

The exact wrong application.


12 posted on 05/22/2020 8:00:18 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (There's a stairway to heaven, but there's also a highway to hell.)
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No Zinc???


13 posted on 05/22/2020 8:00:19 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Anyone tired of the Chinese Fire Drill (tm) yet???)
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So after 60 years of use and millions upon millions of successful results these drugs are found to be harmful.

Riiiight


14 posted on 05/22/2020 8:00:23 AM PDT by Navin Johnson
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This just made the radio news in Oregon...basturds


16 posted on 05/22/2020 8:01:47 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Anyone tired of the Chinese Fire Drill (tm) yet???)
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However, they cautioned that it is not possible to exclude the possibility that other, unmeasured factors were responsible for the apparent link between treatment with these drugs and the decrease in patient survival.

Ahhh.

The team also found that serious cardiac arrhythmias, which cause the lower chamber of the heart to beat rapidly and irregularly, were more common in the groups that received either of the four treatment regimens.

Ahhhhhhhhh!

17 posted on 05/22/2020 8:02:18 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Some one googled Plaquennil for side effects, thought heart was scariest, ignored the facts it is rough on kidneys, and lungs too. My niece’s lungs look like a 60 yr old smoker’s, she is not 35. Takes it for Lupus and Sjogren’s.
BTW VA does 42,000 doses per day.

VA Secretary: On Any Given Day, the VA Uses 42,000 Doses of Hydroxychloroquine
https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washington/melanie-arter/va-secretary-any-given-day-va-uses-42000-doses-hydroxychloroquine?fbclid=IwAR2RQGnjT_bFNld_4IIJvMktQ0zGJuZOjIGjJYQvPgaU2eRIhNvJZk34VHY

Hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil)
https://www.rheumatology.org/I-Am-A/Patient-Caregiver/Treatments/Hydroxychloroquine-Plaquenil

The lowest GoodRx price for the most common version of hydroxychloroquine is around $20.41, 88% off the average retail price of $174.01. Hydroxycholoquine (Plaquenil) is an expensive drug used to treat rheumatoid arthritis and systemic lupus erythematosus. It is also used to treat malaria. It is more popular than comparable drugs. It is available in generic and brand versions. Generic hydroxycholoquine is covered by most Medicare and insurance plans, but some pharmacy coupons or cash prices may be lower. The lowest GoodRx price for the most common version of Plaquenil is around $626.87, 15% off the average retail price of $744.66.


20 posted on 05/22/2020 8:04:57 AM PDT by GailA ( I A TRUMP GIRL)
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I wish that they would make clear in articles like this whether the control group was as ill as the subject group. And that they wouldn’t limit their subject group to those that are already on death’s door.

In this article, a link to another one with findings that seems to contradict it.

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/05/13/Zinc-might-boost-effectiveness-of-malaria-drug-against-COVID-19-experts-say/2801589374701/?st_rec=2541590152464


21 posted on 05/22/2020 8:04:58 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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People with severe illness caused by the new coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, treated with either drug -- either alone or with an antiviral medication -- were up to twice as likely to die than those in the control group, which received standard, supportive care, the researchers found.

In other words wait until there is no hope and then try to save them with a drug that could have cured them if used a day or two earlier.

22 posted on 05/22/2020 8:05:38 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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The team compared outcomes from patients treated with chloroquine alone,

They gave people fish tank cleaner??? And they didn't get better?

hydroxychloroquine alone, chloroquine and a macrolide antiviral drug or hydroxychloroquine with a macrolide antiviral drug.

What was that macrolide antiviral drug? How do they know that didn't cause the deaths?

Patients from each of these four groups -- more than 15,000 in all -- then were compared with the remaining control group of 81,144 patients.

No mention of the use of zinc or that other Z-pack thing but right below that paragraph was this link:

RELATED Zinc might boost effectiveness of malaria drug against COVID-19, experts say

24 posted on 05/22/2020 8:07:14 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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This is the same Lancet that recently advised American voters to vote Trump out of office.I suspect that one can question the Lancet's editorial leanings.
25 posted on 05/22/2020 8:07:16 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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This is what happens when you only give it to those in the last stages... to discredit the drug.


30 posted on 05/22/2020 8:11:37 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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