Generals WIN battle with Donald Trump as 82nd Airborne soldiers are REMOVED from D.C.

UK Daily Mail ^ | June 4, 2020 | Katelyn Carrlaye

[ScottinVA]

Sounds to me like insubordination. Trump has the Insurrection Act of 1807 as backing. Those generals opposing him need to STFU and resign.

[ksm1]

Agreed. I don’t think this happened. They were probably on hot standby in case things really got out of hand, but it seems now that in some cities the riots are simmering down instead of completely out of control as they were last weekend.

I don’t think this happened. Sounds like they were end of mission and just returned to base.

[Old Sarge]

I believe we often automatically associate the higher level of the officer corps as being conservative just because they are military. That may be a mistake on our part.

How many veterans, when they enter the political world, go hard Left? Every single one.

I personally knew one kid during my downrange trip - Maryland National Guard, O-2 formerly an E-4 (a 90-day wonder), a PhD in PoliSci and reminded everyone about it, bragged he was angling for a job in the State Department and his ARNG time was simply a resume bullet point. That was 15 years ago now; the little bassturd probably made good on his plans.

And they are/were not "neocons" - they were/are Marxists. Doctor Zhivago, indeed.

[Old Sarge]

Whatever unit that is, it’s not 1st Cav.

That patch is on the right shoulder, not the left. The LEFT shoulder has the patch of the current unit; the RIGHT is the most-recent-deployment unit, the “pain patch”.

It just means that individual troop went downrange as part of 1st Cav some time ago.

[Old Sarge]

Do they think repeating a lie often enough will suddenly make it true?

Why not, it works every time it's been tried.

[greeneyes]

Well, thanks-I was misinformed by someone I thought should know. However, whatever unit it is, it ain’t the 82cnd airborne is it?

[buckalfa]

Even my hero Gen. Norman Schwartzkopf had what appears to have been a liberal European boarding school education prior to West Point. At !east he had the sense to stay out of government and politics upon retirement. Also consider that by necessity the military is not a democracy but rather operates under a dictatorial structure based on rank with communal needs of the organization being satisfied by socialistic means. If you are on top of such an organization, it would seem normal to see the world in socialistic terms in civilian life.

[Calif Conservative]

It’s inexcusable to forget either 6-4 or 6-6.

Inexcusable for anyone. Including the President.

But on FR - we’re too busy with the circular firing squads on these boards to remember some actual heroes.

Just a reminder about how pathetic FR is becoming, thanks to people like the FEAR Bros. and the Band of Bozos.

[Calif Conservative]

Really?

Precisely who has been punished, from 1-20-2017 to the present date, for sedition or treason?

Any big names? Or anyone?

[AndyJackson]

You are skating on very thin ice here.Mathis is loved and adored here.

Not so much any more. And now, those of us who have suffered from cognitive dissonance for years because of his involvement with the Tharanos scam have had our trouble hearts put at ease. It wasn't a flaw in a great man. It was a flaw in a flawed deep-stater.

Shame, really.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Mattis needs [a firing squad.]

Fixed! :)

[Segovia]

you do recall that O’Kenyan fired all the real generals-—

[angcat]

Is there proof the 82nd was actually there? I was told they were waiting for instructions and still at their base?

[MGunny]

The troops were deployed to prevent further damage to public property. Umm, isn’t that part of upholding the Constitution. What in the hell is happening ??? Who is the joint chief again?? I thought that guy is supposed to receive and obey his orders from SecDef and POTUS????

[Augie]

Mattis might have been a good general at one time.

Then he decided that he didn’t have to do what his boss told him to do.

Now he’s just another never-Trumper @$$hole.

He really ought to be hanged by his treacherous neck until he’s dead.

[lodi90]

you do recall that O’Kenyan fired all the real generals-—

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There are retired “Bush Generals” publicly undermining the CIC, too. We could only be so lucky this is an obama hold over problem. In reality 30 years of rot in the military is coming home to roost.

[lodi90]

Mattis might have been a good general at one time.

Then he decided that he didn’t have to do what his boss told him to do.

Now he’s just another never-Trumper @$$hole.

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We’ve seen this problem time and again in the Age of Trump. Men like Mattis with enormous egos who think “they know better than POTUS” and egged on by The Resistance/Deep State make their own policy. Maybe they should run for POTUS if they want to make policy?

[1Old Pro]

Maybe they should run for POTUS if they want to make policy?

They almost convinced mediocre Colin Powell into thinking he was a great leader.

[rxsid]

Past presidents have invoked the Insurrection Act 19 times, both with the request of the Governor of the affected state, and without their request. Note that every one of those 19 previous invocations of the act, were due to violence or disorder in a single city or single state/territory. President Trump invoking the act due to NATION WIDE violence, looting, arson and depravity of civil rights is certainly lawful and warranted.

List of invocations of Insurrection Act

Date of invocation	Invoking President	State requested?	Affected area	Occasion
April 19, 1808	Thomas Jefferson		Lake Champlain	Embargo Act violations[7]
August 23, 1831	Andrew Jackson	Yes	Norfolk, Virginia	Nat Turner's slave rebellion[10]
January 28, 1834	Andrew Jackson	Yes	Williamsport, Maryland	Labor dispute by workers on Chesapeake and Ohio Canal[11]
October 17, 1871	Ulysses S. Grant	No	South Carolina	Suppression of Ku Klux Klan[12]
September 15, 1872	Ulysses S. Grant	No	New Orleans, Louisiana	Unrest following 1872 Louisiana gubernatorial election[13]
May 13, 1874	Ulysses S. Grant	Yes	Little Rock, Arkansas	Brooks–Baxter War [14]
October 7, 1878	Rutherford B. Hayes	Yes	Lincoln County, New Mexico Territory	Lincoln County War[15]
July 7, 1894	Grover Cleveland	Yes	Chicago, Illinois	Pullman Strike[16][17]
April 28, 1914	Woodrow Wilson	Yes[18]	Colorado	Colorado Coalfield War[19]
July 22, 1943	Franklin D. Roosevelt	Yes	Detroit, Michigan	1943 Detroit race riot[20]
September 24, 1957	Dwight D. Eisenhower	No	Little Rock, Arkansas	To protect Little Rock Nine[21]:8
September 30, 1962	John F. Kennedy	No	Oxford, Mississippi	Ole Miss riot of 1962[7]:13
September 10, 1963	John F. Kennedy	No	Alabama	Enforce desegregation orders on Alabama public schools[7]:13
July 24, 1967	Lyndon B. Johnson	Yes	Detroit, Michigan	1967 Detroit riot[22]
April 5, 1968	Lyndon B. Johnson	Yes	Washington, D.C.	1968 Washington, D.C., riots[23]
April 7, 1968	Lyndon B. Johnson	Yes	Baltimore, Maryland	Baltimore riot of 1968[24]
April 7, 1968	Lyndon B. Johnson	Yes	Chicago, Illinois	1968 Chicago riots[25]
September 1989	George H. W. Bush	Yes	Saint Croix, United States Virgin Islands	Disorder following Hurricane Hugo[26]
May 1, 1992	George H. W. Bush	Yes	Los Angeles County, California	1992 Los Angeles riots[27]

[rxsid]

Now...with working links (aside from the initial, title, link)

And note, the times when the states did NO request the federal help, was regarding issues of race.

 

List of invocations of Insurrection Act

Date of invocation	Invoking President	State requested?	Affected area	Occasion
April 19, 1808	Thomas Jefferson		Lake Champlain	Embargo Act violations[7]
August 23, 1831	Andrew Jackson	Yes	Norfolk, Virginia	Nat Turner's slave rebellion[10]
January 28, 1834	Andrew Jackson	Yes	Williamsport, Maryland	Labor dispute by workers on Chesapeake and Ohio Canal[11]
October 17, 1871	Ulysses S. Grant	No	South Carolina	Suppression of Ku Klux Klan[12]
September 15, 1872	Ulysses S. Grant	No	New Orleans, Louisiana	Unrest following 1872 Louisiana gubernatorial election[13]
May 13, 1874	Ulysses S. Grant	Yes	Little Rock, Arkansas	Brooks–Baxter War [14]
October 7, 1878	Rutherford B. Hayes	Yes	Lincoln County, New Mexico Territory	Lincoln County War[15]
July 7, 1894	Grover Cleveland	Yes	Chicago, Illinois	Pullman Strike[16][17]
April 28, 1914	Woodrow Wilson	Yes[18]	Colorado	Colorado Coalfield War[19]
July 22, 1943	Franklin D. Roosevelt	Yes	Detroit, Michigan	1943 Detroit race riot[20]
September 24, 1957	Dwight D. Eisenhower	No	Little Rock, Arkansas	To protect Little Rock Nine[21]:8
September 30, 1962	John F. Kennedy	No	Oxford, Mississippi	Ole Miss riot of 1962[7]:13
September 10, 1963	John F. Kennedy	No	Alabama	Enforce desegregation orders on Alabama public schools[7]:13
July 24, 1967	Lyndon B. Johnson	Yes	Detroit, Michigan	1967 Detroit riot[22]
April 5, 1968	Lyndon B. Johnson	Yes	Washington, D.C.	1968 Washington, D.C., riots[23]
April 7, 1968	Lyndon B. Johnson	Yes	Baltimore, Maryland	Baltimore riot of 1968[24]
April 7, 1968	Lyndon B. Johnson	Yes	Chicago, Illinois	1968 Chicago riots[25]
September 1989	George H. W. Bush	Yes	Saint Croix, United States Virgin Islands	Disorder following Hurricane Hugo[26]
May 1, 1992	George H. W. Bush	Yes	Los Angeles County, California	1992 Los Angeles riots[27]