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if a person has gross medical conditions (enlarged heart) and is under the influence of meth (which is toxic to the heart), how can this be considered 'homicide' as a result of restraining him when he's out in the street raging? What does society expect cops expected to do differently in this situation? Wait for him to go to sleep? (to save reading, 2 white cops, 1 black, 1 asian, still breathing when EMS arrives, 40 minute rescue attempt)
1 posted on 06/05/2020 4:23:44 AM PDT by blueplum
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Hmm. In Mpls. it was 2 white cops, a black and an asian. Sounds like some sort of conspiracy theory killing squad.

“Ok - so will have the cops be a mix of races, so when they kill them they won’t figure out it is a racial hit.”


2 posted on 06/05/2020 4:27:53 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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The five murdered cops can’t breath either. 22 Officers killed by gunfire this year so far. It looks like the meth heads are winning the battle.


3 posted on 06/05/2020 4:39:51 AM PDT by richardtavor
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Now that you bring up the issue....and after much thought from this Floyd case....I think there should be some level of restraint so long as the perp is not a threat to anybody.

Hear me out.

Floyd was probably drunk, probably high....I don’t doubt that. But what was he doing? Passing a counterfeit twenty dollar bill?

Was it really necessary for four cops to jump on this guy, eventually, let’s tell it like it is....killing the guy?

Once the police realized that the guy was almost uncontrollable why didn’t they write up some kind of ticket, walk away, and leave him be?

Was it really a good idea for four cops to jump on him and let’s face it...kill him?

Anyway, a way to handle these sorts of situations should be discussed by police departments across the fruity plains.

Floyd wasn’t out on the street raging. He was in a car about to drive off.

For four cops to jump on a non-violent perp was a bit much and a good discussion in police departments might be a good idea.


4 posted on 06/05/2020 4:41:42 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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I’m sure FR’s Concern Trolls will be all over this, joining the Fake News in castigating the police.


12 posted on 06/05/2020 5:00:03 AM PDT by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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To bad they couldn’t just tranquilize em.


15 posted on 06/05/2020 5:06:20 AM PDT by Leep (We can go to the grocery store but we can't go to work?)
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Officers claim Ellis slammed one of them to the ground so they restrained him

How Dare You.

17 posted on 06/05/2020 5:09:32 AM PDT by McGruff
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Forget the knee on the neck. Just shoot ‘em in the knee. That would at least stop them looting and acting out.


30 posted on 06/05/2020 5:56:19 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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Thank goodness. I need to do some more looting for mid-summer birthday presents. And I was hoping to loot a new grill from Lowes for the backyard.


36 posted on 06/05/2020 6:42:35 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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“Ellis was living at a clean-and-sober home, his good friend said at a vigil Contributing factors to the death included methamphetamine intoxication...”

They seem to have a different definition of clean and sober than I do.

L


44 posted on 06/05/2020 7:10:46 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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Everybodies gotta die of something. Some folks do it while cops are holding them down.


46 posted on 06/05/2020 7:46:14 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Be strong & prosper, be weak & die! Stay true.... ~~ Donald J. Trump)
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To: blueplum; All

At least this report offers the circumstances behind the action taken not like with Floyd

Where the democrat controlled media dilberately miss portrayed Floyd as an innocent black who was being forceably restrained because he was black for passing a counterfeit $20 dollar bill .When actually he was resisting arrest and was a threat if not secured by not mentioning his size or reporting that Floyd was removed from a squad car because he was acting up under the influence of drugs and also later was discovered to have COVID 19. Which suggests his physical condition may have led to his death which the media turned into a murder change and a charge of serious abuse by police because of police efforts that were tried to get him who under control Check out
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3850368/posts
Further confirmation here
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3850910/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3851693/posts
This posting has comments that reveals that both the arresting officer and Floyd knew each other and had worked together in bar security
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3851100/posts
The results of politically induced miss reporting used earlier during and after the post Zimmmerman trial. Led to black gangs attacking non blacks found innocently traversing black neighborhoods and to a score of murders or life changing injuries and later attacks of theft and vandalism on local businesses as well as attacks and murders of police officers during that period


47 posted on 06/05/2020 7:46:50 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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Don’t resist and you can breathe.

KISS
Keep it simple stupid


48 posted on 06/05/2020 7:47:03 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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If you are yelling “I can’t breathe” then you are obviously breathing. DUH...


49 posted on 06/05/2020 2:58:10 PM PDT by GoldMan (Never try to rationalize an irrational mind............)
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