“The Irish were treated for all intents as slaves in America”
Really? An Irishman could have his children taken away from him and be sold without his consent?
If an Irishman left his job, he could be hunted down with dogs and whipped?
An Irishman’s boss could sell him to another boss and ship him across the country without his consent?
I am not denigrating how rough Irish immigrants had it, but it was not comparable to slavery.
Just to be clear, I’m talking about the 1850s era, and not when there was indentured servants earlier - although, since this was time limited, still wasn’t as bad as slavery.
[[Just to be clear, I’m talking about the 1850s era, and not when there was indentured servants earlier ]]
Ok- thsi was your post to another fella after your post to me- but I’ll address that-
“Indentured servants’ is a term used by those who deny the fact that whites were slaves throughout history- while some folks were truly indentured servants- that is not what the irish were they were property of owners- Revisionist historians want to whitewash this fact by calling them ‘indentured servants’-
[[Really? An Irishman could have his children taken away from him and be sold without his consent?
If an Irishman left his job, he could be hunted down with dogs and whipped?
An Irishman’s boss could sell him to another boss and ship him across the country without his consent?]]
“But the Irish did suffer tremendously and there is a clear tendency to undermine that truth. Adults and children were torn from their homes, transported to the colonies in bondage against their will, and sold into a system of prolonged servitude.
The argument goes that the Irish were indentured servants and therefore could be set free at some point after they had worked like slaves literally for years.
But, as the following court case from 1661 shows, the terms of servitude were not always so cut and dry, with masters extending them at will, with full support of the court system and laws of the day.
What is especially interesting is that indentured servitude was said to be a contract between the servant and his master. However, in this case the contract was between the ship captain who captured the Irishmen and the family he sold them to.”
to say these folks were ‘indentured servants’ is to bastardize the term indentured servant- They were clearly slaves- bought and sold as property- Were they abused and whipped for disobeying and running away? There is no legitimate reason to think they weren’t- it almost entirely probable that they were-
“They came in the holds of overcrowded ships, packed in among cargo and animals, and those who survived the journey were bought and sold in chains to work as hard as their owners chose. They were taken to the Carribean, to the American colonies, and beyond. Sound familiar? But these forced immigrants, deprived of all personal freedom, were Irish slaves, and their servitude started long before black slavery was common.
The history of the Irish slaves has long been suppressed, and a modern movement of Irish slavery denial has even gained mainstream acceptance. Promoters of this toxic ideology claim that it is ‘racist’ to say the Irish were ever sold as slaves, as this ‘takes away’ from the black experience.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Slavery is slavery. Any person who is bought and sold, chained and abused, whether for a decade or a lifetime, deserves to be remembered, their tragic legacy respected.”
https://newspunch.com/almost-one-million-irish-slaves-at-risk-of-being-scrubbed-from-history/