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Israeli Data Show School Openings Were a Disaster That Wiped Out Lockdown Gains
The Daily Beast ^ | July 14th, 2020 | Noga Tarnopolsky

Posted on 07/14/2020 8:05:29 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Everybody is going to get this, because it is far enough from what the human body knows about that there is no immunity. What not everybody will get is severely ill from it, because only about 10% of us will become severely ill. Everybody else will either get a mild case, that is shakeable, or not ill at all.

A vaccine will not be probably for the next two years, which means we destroy the economy and become an 18th century agrarian economy again or we just accept some mile measures, like wearing gloves when out an about and masks, if you’re being near people, and wash your hands when you are home.


21 posted on 07/14/2020 8:22:13 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is thp at they are both death cults.)
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To: Mariner

Are you going to believe the Daily Beast (and the Fearpers), or the New England Journal of Medicine?

From yesterday’s post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3864659/posts:

The New England Journal of Medicine released the results of a study on the China coronavirus.... Children have a very low risk of catching the China coronavirus.
...
The senior author concluded that: “[E]ven if children do get infected, they are less likely to transmit the disease to others than adults. We have not found a single instance of a child infecting parents.”


22 posted on 07/14/2020 8:23:21 AM PDT by norcal joe
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To: cuban leaf

You shouldn’t have to tell anyone on this site that information still. They should already know it. If they are still terrified of this thing shame on them.

I understand some of our older and sickly. But the rest of us know that we are not going to die from this virus. In fact I am sure this virus is the last thing that will kill me


23 posted on 07/14/2020 8:25:26 AM PDT by dp0622 (Trump!!)
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To: Mariner

“Closed, 700 square foot space.
Recirculated air.
20+ kids.
Other than teachers catching it, what could go wrong?”

You say that as if little kids weren’t known to be extremely careful not to spread whatever bug is passing around.


24 posted on 07/14/2020 8:27:46 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: dp0622

Yep.

In fact, my wife and I are both 66 and have zero health care insurance (well, we get Medicare A whether we want it or not) and we’re not even worried about this.

Also, a fun fact from that video: If you are under 25 you are fifty (five zero) times more likely to drown than die of this virus. Yet we still allow young people to go swimming.


25 posted on 07/14/2020 8:29:21 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Mariner

While ignoring data and studies from Sweden, Norway, etc., etc., etc., etc.........................


26 posted on 07/14/2020 8:31:44 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Mariner

So now we believe the Daily Beast REALLY???


27 posted on 07/14/2020 8:39:20 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: cranked

People cherry pick when they start with a conclusion.


28 posted on 07/14/2020 8:40:26 AM PDT by Morpheus2009 (If you want me to be afraid, then be consistent in your logic, standards, and your lies!)
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To: Mariner

This article is misleading in many ways.

First all, the leftist/MSM political narrative has changed from “flatten the curve” to the impossible “no new cases.” Reasonable people will know there is no way to stop the spread of Covid19 among the population. The only question is - how fast?

The article only discusses “new cases.” it doesn’t discuss how many are asymptomatic and also the death rate.


29 posted on 07/14/2020 8:46:43 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Mariner

What could go right? Teachers get it.

What could go wrong? Children are ill educated. Wait, they already are.


30 posted on 07/14/2020 8:51:46 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

There is a slim chance that a vaccine would give us herd immunity.

There is no herd immunity for the flu, 30% is considered effective for that vaccine, excellence is in the 50% range....but it was a milder form. smh

The best thing is to allow the virus/disease to run its course and concentrate on treatments. The money and studies should be placed there for now.


31 posted on 07/14/2020 8:57:34 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer)
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To: Mariner

Elect Biden. There will be no need for lockdowns after that.

Go fast or slow. Get it now or get it later. I prefer now while my non-lockdown immunity is still strong. Who knows how weak an immune system can get after prolonged isolation.

How many of these children are dying? Oh that’s right Fearpers, like their big governemt friends on the left, pivoted from the now not so scary “case fatality rate” to the rate of spread statistic.


32 posted on 07/14/2020 9:21:41 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Mariner

Never forget: Israel IS the Left. They want to forward the lockdown scenario. Makes people easier to control. Education be damned. They figure that through the screens, they can indoctrinate more effectively than with live teachers.


33 posted on 07/14/2020 9:26:00 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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To: Glad2bnuts

The vaccine doesn’t need to get us all the way there to drastically reduce the number of Americans who eventually die from this disease.

If we get a vaccine that’s 50% effective and 100% of the population takes it (I know they won’t, but I’m just using some basic numbers here), that’s 50% of the population with immunity to that pathogen with 0 deaths. If herd immunity is around 65%, then ~15% of the population will get infected naturally and some number of them (CDC now says IFR is probably .63% for COVID-19) will die.

Putting some real numbers around that, 65% of 330 million Americans is 216 million. 15% is 50 million. 15% sounds a lot better to me. That’s why President Trump has pushed so hard to make this happen. He knows it’s the smart play. With any luck, that may be the October surprise needed to secure a huge win.


34 posted on 07/14/2020 9:35:12 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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"Who knows how weak an immune system can get after prolonged isolation."

Every doctor, nurse, or other person with any training related to medicine? And the answer is: it has zero impact.

Your immune system isn't a muscle that gets stronger when used heavily and weaker when not used as much. It has nonspecific defenses that never change (e.g. macrophages and neutrophils) and specific defenses that respond to specific intruders (e.g. Memory B-cells). There is no mechanism for deterioration of this simply due to time. Certainly things that weaken the body as a whole (such as a bad disease, cancer, old age, etc.) have an impact, but a lack of exposure to pathogens has zero impact on the strength or health of your immune system.

35 posted on 07/14/2020 9:40:18 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: BenLurkin

Or it shows they didn’t reopen properly.


36 posted on 07/14/2020 9:45:54 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: PGR88

“Reasonable people will know there is no way to stop the spread of Covid19 among the population.”

We squandered the enormous sacrifice of the lockdowns/quarantine. There was an opportunity to stop this disease.

It is no longer available to us.

Open everything without restriction and let the virus take its course.


37 posted on 07/14/2020 9:47:08 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Believe the Israeli data.

Know millions more are going to get sick, and some of them are going to die.

But open everything without restriction and let the virus take its course.

It serves no purpose to pretend it can be stopped. Or to pretend the impact will not take another few hundred thousand people. Even millions on a global scale.

We cannot kill Western Civilization. It would be the greatest crime in human history.


38 posted on 07/14/2020 9:51:54 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Jonty30

In any flu season where we ever told to wear masks? Covid is not the flu but some 60,000 people died from the flu in 2017. No one cared, no lock downs, no mask wearing. This is all bs.


39 posted on 07/14/2020 10:17:08 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: Mariner

The exact thing we should’ve never done was close the schools. They are born and bred to deal with all matter of viruses and such. They are your prime movers towards immunity.


40 posted on 07/14/2020 10:20:21 AM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing America's youth on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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