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Why Is the COVID-19 Death Rate Down?
Atlantic via govexec ^ | JULY 9, 2020 | DEREK THOMPSON

Posted on 07/17/2020 9:34:52 AM PDT by rintintin

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To: rintintin

“terrifying levels” of cases ... says all you need to know about the state of fear and the level of ignorance of many, many Americans who remain scared out of their minds over these germs.


21 posted on 07/17/2020 10:00:56 AM PDT by glennaro (Mask-wearing maintains fear, but because it's ineffective it helps spread the virus & build immunity)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

‘but it’s dishonest to say it’s plateauing or dropping right now.’

is this where we all retire to our basements, and throw away the keys...?


22 posted on 07/17/2020 10:03:03 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: rintintin

DUH!!!

Cases up by magnitudes, deaths down = actual death rate/mortality rate is a fraction of what we have been told.

# of cases is IRRELEVANT as most are asymptomatic, only DEATHS are relevant.

MEDIA LIES. GOVERNMENT LIES.

What else is new?


23 posted on 07/17/2020 10:03:09 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: Erik Latranyi
"Case numbers rising fast, deaths rising slower"

But still rising...........when they HAD been falling. Not a good change in direction.

24 posted on 07/17/2020 10:08:29 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (No Longer Tolerating Trolls!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
..."already dead."

No doubt whatsoever. With almost useless massive testing, we have learned one thing; the virus is much more pervasive than anyone imagined. Thus, most peeps have already been exposed.

"Cases" will continue to rise and panic, but that's a function of politics.

We must continue to expose the fraud.

25 posted on 07/17/2020 10:08:50 AM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'm going ahead.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

The numbers we have are not perfect, but they’re what we have. It’s what’s being reported by hospitals and shared up the chain. Whatever errors exist within those numbers, it will take quite a while to sort them out. For Influenza deaths, it usually takes 2 years to go from preliminary estimates to final numbers, and even those are a range due to lack of testing.

I agree the case numbers are rising much faster, but we’re also doing more testing than ever and catching a lot of the mild and asymptomatic cases we would have missed previously. Tests have gone from ~130 per 100,000 people on June 1st to around 212 per 100,000 people today (https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america).

I also think treatments have improved a lot and we’re probably saving a lot of people who would have died back in April. However, there’s also a lag between an increase in infections and an increase in deaths. On average, it’s about 14 days, but there’s a range from 6-41 days depending on the indiviual(https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/).

Looking at the case counts graph, the 7-day moving average for cases began a sustained shift up around June 18-20. That would suggest we should see deaths begin to increase somewhere around July 2-4. That gets a little fuzzy with poor reporting around the July 4th holiday, but by July 7th, we see the current jump in death counts.


26 posted on 07/17/2020 10:15:57 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: rintintin

Deaths lag infections by 2-3 weeks. The rate will rapidly increase.


27 posted on 07/17/2020 10:17:14 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: IrishBrigade

No, I think this is where we take another look at efforts to ensure social distancing is happening, hand washing, and so on while we go about our lives in the safest way we can to slow the spread without crashing the economy (again).

That means maybe take a break from massive riots and protests and block parties where thousands and tens of thousands of people are jammed in together spreading this thing like wildfire.


28 posted on 07/17/2020 10:18:42 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: rintintin
Not sure where else to post this great chart that summarizes the use of hydroxychloriquine, so I will paste it here.

Please note the amazing research resource this guy published on Twitter:


29 posted on 07/17/2020 10:20:57 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: rintintin

Because democrat governors have already killed as many vulnerable old people in nursing homes as they could get away with, and it’s getting harder and harder to categorize other deaths as “COVID-19” deaths, now that people are paying more attention.

Plandemic.


30 posted on 07/17/2020 10:23:56 AM PDT by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA! Derps vs. Patriots, choose your side.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

bump


31 posted on 07/17/2020 10:24:46 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

bump


32 posted on 07/17/2020 10:24:46 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
2 weeks ago, the 7-day moving average for US COVID-19 deaths was 554. Now it’s 761, driven primarily by increases in California, Texas, Florida, and Arizona.

Careful with the truth. You will probably get slammed on FR as well as the NYT and MSM.

You are spot on, of course, with your comment. I hope you are right about the "California, Texas, Florida and Arizona" bit and wonder if we can confirm that this uptick is due to people coming in from Mexico to get better treatment in the U.S. This could be American citizens as well as those from Mexico and South with a legal right to re-enter the U.S.

If you have any additional info on that subject, you should post it. It should be a hot topic. It isn't, at least not yet. If it is true it would be a powerful argument against the continued political driven (my opinion) lockdowns.

33 posted on 07/17/2020 10:25:09 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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To: rintintin

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/lockdown-lunacy-2-0-second-wave-not-even-close/?fbclid=IwAR36E1sM2JZZxzHQIzU3bPVMxAaQqGsBPeFPFYVQxa0W4eOVD6PQCt22-Xs


34 posted on 07/17/2020 10:28:02 AM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing America's youth on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: rintintin
Why is the death rate down

Better management of the early deterioration phase of the disease.

35 posted on 07/17/2020 10:29:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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To: taxcontrol

The Democrats need the virus to end. It no longer helps them. If college students don’t get back to campus, the Election is over. Those robotic campus votes are their base now.


36 posted on 07/17/2020 10:45:20 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: rintintin

And that’s with them calling all deaths COVID

The question I always ask everybody is do you personally know anybody who has had this disease and or been hospitalized ?

nobody I know has answered yes yet

They can’t fake deaths but they can call natural death or death from something else Covid

I base at least 50% of the “Covid deaths” to be of other causes


37 posted on 07/17/2020 11:04:38 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv-mint you get is the Trump winning express ! Yea haw ! Trump pence II!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Where’s the task force? Where is Pence setting the record straight every day? He’s totally blown the messaging on this.

Yes I agree. Should be at least 3 times a week.

38 posted on 07/17/2020 11:06:13 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Wonder Warthog

You seem to forget that we were locked down before, and that we did the lockdown to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed. We weren’t going to be able to stay hidden in our homes forever. When they said “flatten the curve” what they meant was that we would be EXTENDING the time this virus would last in the population. The number of cases would still be the same. You can’t stop a virus from doing it’s job until you hit herd immunity. People will get sick and some of those people will die. This is to be expected.

What we were hoping for is that by locking down, it would buy us some time to learn about this virus. I’d say that’s happening. More infections is to be expected. It’s how viruses work. Then they will peter out once herd immunity is reached. They won’t have as many new bodies to infect. Once we get to herd immunity, or a vaccine, this virus, like all viruses, will not be such a threat. It’s barely a threat now. There’s just a lot of hype about it. Once this election happens in November, we won’t hear anything about it, especially if Biden is selected.


39 posted on 07/17/2020 11:19:06 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: rintintin

Yes they deliberately want to public to focus on “cases”. I had some guy tell me it will be a million dead by the end of 2021.


40 posted on 07/17/2020 11:19:59 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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