Why DC Could Be Facing Another Gun Control Lawsuit from the Man Who Shredded Its Handgun Ban

townhall.com ^ | 7/20/2020 | Matt Vespa

[rktman]

Dick Heller is reportedly mulling another lawsuit against the District of Columbia, and once again—it’s over the Second Amendment. Heller was the man who brought about the key DC v. Heller case that tossed the city’s handgun ban and asserted an individual right for Americans to own firearms outside of service in a militia. Yet, it only applied to federal enclaves. In 2010, McDonald v. Chicago expanded that standard to the states. There’s no doubt the capital also faces differing circumstances, given the number of VIPs that reside in the area, like the president of the United States, but that doesn’t excuse the months-long wait people have been subjected to regarding exercising their constitutional rights. These are law-abiding citizens. It’s not right.

[rktman]

And while complying with any resulting win, like last time, d.c. will still drag their feet somehow in order to make it as difficult as possible to issue any permits. An abudance of "vip"(?) persons don't mean squat. It's not like (shocking I know) someone with ill intent is going to go through the process. Like a lot of us, we consider ourselves a VIP.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

I love DC and Chicago: they never learn their lessons and they keep generating wonderful binding precedents at the Supreme Court. Other places like New York figured out that when you can’t possibly win, you have to back down to avoid a catastrophic loss. But not DC and Chicago! They just double down, lose badly in court, and then cut huge checks to Alan Gura. They’re the gifts that keep on giving!

[umgud]

Scotus could have made things clearer, but didn’t AND won’t with the current court makeup.

[rightwingcrazy]

In the meanwhile, they’re able to thwart the 2nd Amendment rights of people for 5 years out of every 6. That’s a win for them. The checks are for money that’s not theirs, anyway.

[Gay State Conservative]

A state that has open contempt for 2nd Amendment rights is Massachusetts.That shouldn't surprise anyone...the state legislature is 90% Rat (both houses) and every Governor who's served in the last 30 years (starting with the Tank Commander) have proudly proclaimed their hatred of the President.

But from Massachusetts came "Caetano v Massachusetts" in 2016...a state felony conviction that SCOTUS overturned:

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That was a conviction that the Massachusetts Supreme Court had upheld,ruling that Caetano's 2nd Amendment rights were not infringed by the state.

[sauropod]

Thank you Muriel Bowwow.

[Yo-Yo]

Since Heller and McDonald were decided a decade ago, Roberts has become very squishy on the Second Amendment, and several potentially ground-shaking cases that would have greatly firmed up the Second Amendment and its scope of protections have been turned down due to Roberts’ reluctance to uphold prior Heller and McDonald rulings.

I’m not sure who I want to see replaced more on the Supreme Court; Ginsberg or Roberts.

[SamuraiScot]

I’m not sure who I want to see replaced more on the Supreme Court; Ginsberg or Roberts.

That's easy. Roberts.

(Gotta be something in the late Mr. Epstein's files.)

Then Ruth Buzzy will retire anyway, one way or the other.

[Yo-Yo]

Yeah, well I’m afraid that if Roberts leaves the court, Kavanaugh will assume the mantle of “swing vote.” I don’t trust the guy, and so far I can’t see why the Left fought his nomination so hard. Unless it was a Brier Rabbit moment.

[SERE_DOC]

So is SCOTUS to be ignored if they enact a law that calls for the restricting of or abandonment 2nd amendment rights?

And what does one do when the cops in contravention of constitutional rights come to confiscate yours?

[Secret Agent Man]

replacing either is a huge positive for me

dont care which one first

if its roberts i know ruthie aint far behind

and if its ruthie first roberts aint far behind

[Yo-Yo]

So is SCOTUS to be ignored if they enact a law that calls for the restricting of or abandonment 2nd amendment rights?

And what does one do when the cops in contravention of constitutional rights come to confiscate yours?

According to our Constitution, the Supreme Court is tasked with adjudicating what is and is not "Constitutional."

If a bill is passed and signed into law, and upheld by SCOTUS, that I feel violates the Second Amendment, what I do next depends on whether I wish to become the next Ruby Ridge or Waco.

I also know that anything I do as an individual will be meaningless and will not change a thing. But I'll be dead comforted in the knowledge that I died a futile death being morally right.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

Yes, and Caetano extended the established precedent for the Second Amendment beyond firearms. So thank you Massachusetts! Keep up the stubborn ignorance so SCOTUS can continue to expand the court-recognized scope of the Second Amendment!

I was actually a plaintiff (one of many) on a lawsuit against a locality in another state challenging a stun gun ban filed immediately after the Caetano decision. The local government yanked their ordinance just before we went to court. I don’t particularly care about stun guns, but that isn’t really the point. The tool of self defense you CHOOSE to employ is YOUR business; NOT the government’s!

[TXnMA]

"(Gotta be something in the late Mr. Epstein's files.)"

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...or in the files of Brennan/Clapper/Comey's illicit "HAMMER" intercept supercomputer at Ft. Washington...

I'd go with "HAMMER+ Adoptions" for Roberts...

TXnMA
  

[SERE_DOC]

"But I'll be dead comforted in the knowledge that I died a futile death being morally right."

And the thought that living in subjugation and servitude is more appealing to you?

So you will feel better as a coward, and yet living a meaningless life as someone bitch?

I hope you get everything you wish for in your insignificant existence.

[Yo-Yo]

Big talk, mister. Move your ass to New York City and try to exercise your Second Amendment Rights there, and I’ll be happy to visit you in prison. Or the cemetary.

There’s a right way and a wrong way to fight these battles, and your smugness looking down your nose at those less fortunate living in non-free states doesn’t solve anything.

Thank God that I do live in a Free state. And I will continue to fight WITHIN THE SYSTEM for my brethren who are less fortunate.

Voting for the right candidates who will pass the right laws, and for the right President who will appoint the right Judges and Justices, and providing financial support to the right civil rights groups is working within the system.

False bravado of speaking of armed defiance while living in a state where you know your words will never have to be tested, is not.

[SERE_DOC]

Big talk indeed, but being a chicken shit and alive makes one a moral coward, good luck with that blah, blah, blah.

Lived in the northeast, 50 years ago before the world went flat stupid. And not likely to return.

9 years between Baghdad, Sudan and Afghanistan, and 20 years in the mil so false bravado or not living your life under the delusion oh I'm doing the right thing blah, blah, blah, look how pious I am blah, blah.

Not having a spirit of timidity is what is called for.

How about you drag your happy ass to New York and pontificate your free state values there?

Moral relevancy sucks

[SERE_DOC]

Here is what working in the system gets you...The law