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Winn-Dixie, Publix, Walmart: All the U.S. Chains Requiring Masks
New York Times ^ | 7/21/20 | Gillian Friedman

Posted on 07/21/2020 2:20:08 PM PDT by Meatspace

Large retail chains have started requiring customers to wear masks inside all of their stores, as coronavirus cases surge across the country and politicians and public health experts clamor for widespread use of face coverings to stem the spread of the disease.

After Walmart, America’s largest retailer, announced on July 15 that it would mandate in-store mask-wearing, a flurry of other companies, including Kroger, Target and Walgreens, followed suit. This means that customers will be required to wear face masks in stores even in places without local mask ordinances. The National Retail Federation has encouraged companies to set nationwide mask policies to protect employees and shoppers.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: karenavirus; maskophiles; maskophobes; typhoidmary
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1 posted on 07/21/2020 2:20:08 PM PDT by Meatspace
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To: Meatspace

Had a first encounter with a store mask requirer today ... I refused mask and was told I could not enter .... so be it .... resembles mark of the beast more and more. Is good the WWII generation is not witnessing these days


2 posted on 07/21/2020 2:24:55 PM PDT by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die)
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To: no-to-illegals

Mark of the beast indeed.

For the first time in my life, I have lost faith in the basic common sense and common decency of my fellow Americans.

We have become a nation of cowards.


3 posted on 07/21/2020 2:28:13 PM PDT by Nothingburger
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To: no-to-illegals

If you tell them you have a medical condition that precludes wearing a mask, they have to let you in.


4 posted on 07/21/2020 2:28:33 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Justice for Mekhi James. Lori Lightfoot, take care of your babies!)
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To: Meatspace

I thought WD had refused? Shakedown?


5 posted on 07/21/2020 2:28:51 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Meatspace

If you have been to one of the stores lately, and noticed the clientele, you will want to wear a mask. Covid 19 has killed the idea of personal hygiene. Not only that, but people have become rude as hell. I have never seen so many angry people as what I saw in Wal Mart recently.


6 posted on 07/21/2020 2:31:07 PM PDT by Scott Kraut (My goal is to burn down America's remaining Democrat party plantations.)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Tried that a couple of times but I decided to tell the truth. I’ve been offered masks but never took one but this incident today was first time denied entry


7 posted on 07/21/2020 2:31:30 PM PDT by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die)
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To: Meatspace

I am only going to small neighborhood stores now.

local markets.

The big box stores have too much power.


8 posted on 07/21/2020 2:32:28 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Scott Kraut

Yep

Very uneasy feeling

Bad energy coming off so many people


9 posted on 07/21/2020 2:33:17 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Meatspace

That’s a lot of patriots!


10 posted on 07/21/2020 2:33:32 PM PDT by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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To: Nothingburger

Don’t know .... I’m simply waiting on Election Day and the day after .....


11 posted on 07/21/2020 2:33:33 PM PDT by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die)
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To: Nothingburger

Mark of the beast?

Nonsense. Just don’t shop there.

The masks aren’t mandated by government, well maybe in
democrat ruled serfdoms.


12 posted on 07/21/2020 2:33:57 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Vendome

Agree. It’s scary. And I live in a small town.


13 posted on 07/21/2020 2:34:29 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Meatspace

I haven’t put on a mask yet and just got back from our little grocery store. Old women walking around without masks, people well within 6 feet of each other gabbing away, oh my.

Moved from Ctrl FL to the rural Midwest because I knew, sooner or later, insanity would come.


14 posted on 07/21/2020 2:36:14 PM PDT by Pollard (whatever)
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To: Meatspace

Dear Sirs;

The data is, at this point, quite clear.

Your County mask mandate came into effect on 10 July. It is now 10 days, or 2 viral “cycles”, later.

No effects would be visible for at least three and likely five (median time to symptoms from infection) days post mandate. Therefore, any trend changes prior to the 15th are not from the mandate; they physically cannot be.

The 7 day rolling moving average of case numbers was trending down right up until the 15th. Literally on the 15th, the first day that an effect would be expected to be seen, it reversed. It is now running 25% higher than the day of the mandate imposition itself.

This by itself is quite troubling. While the confidence bands I calculate are too wide to make a definitive statement it certainly appears that the mask mandate increased transmission of the virus rather than suppressing it.

Further, the gap between recovering and active cases, which demonstrably showed no reason for the mandate in the first place — active cases were contracting — has narrowed. This is bad and again, the date of the turn occurred exactly on the 15th.

No other restrictions or changes were made in terms of what businesses could be open or not, or under what terms, on the 10th. You thus cannot point to confounding factors. Further, you can’t point to the 4th of July weekend either, as those effects would be visible on the 9th, or effective on the day the mandate went into effect. Yet into the 4th of July weekend and forward for another week the case delta rate continued to trend downward.

The data and trends in it are clear: The mask mandate was worse than worthless; it appears to be causing HARM.

Fortunately — at least to this point — we are still getting more recoveries than active cases. If that changes then you’ve gone from making people mildly sick to make them very sick and perhaps even killing them with your mandate.

That’s what the science tells us.

It’s not surprising; all mitigations have both benefits and costs. If the benefits are zero, which the physics and 14 Random Controlled Trials on masks in the general public over the last 20+ years tells us they should be then there are only costs. If you increase cross-contamination risk, which a mask order indisputably does when imposed on business workers and the general population then the outcome we have today was foreseeable.

You can’t argue with the numbers and they’re not my numbers, they’re yours.

I will be distributing this letter to local firms.

http://tickerforum.org/akcs-www?post=239779


15 posted on 07/21/2020 2:37:09 PM PDT by afchief
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To: no-to-illegals

Just wear the mask. Not sure how some people equate wearing a mask during a pandemic to communism.


16 posted on 07/21/2020 2:40:05 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Meatspace

I wear a mask.... on my chin.

Disobey, defy...


17 posted on 07/21/2020 2:40:13 PM PDT by Professional
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

A lot of people on this site are insane.


18 posted on 07/21/2020 2:40:49 PM PDT by Monty22002
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Lemmings and cliffs ... just follow orders ....


19 posted on 07/21/2020 2:41:24 PM PDT by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die)
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To: no-to-illegals

I hit the outlet mall today for some garden tools. The power tool store was lying about a local mask order. There is a mask requirement in the city near here but the outlet is located in the unincorporated area of my county where there is no mask order. I’ve noticed that a few times now: Businesses flat out lying about “local government mask orders” when there are none.

It looked like Nike is requiring a temp check before entering. I wouldn’t be caught dead in a Nike outlet store.


20 posted on 07/21/2020 2:41:40 PM PDT by lodi90
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