Posted on 08/07/2020 9:06:40 PM PDT by conservative98
Canada seems to be forgetting that they are ONE OF MANY aluminum and bauxite suppliers in the world. The USA has considerable leverage in sourcing its aluminum needs.
We should do with Canada what China is doing with their neighbors - start claiming resource rich territory. To begin, we should remind Canada that all of their Aluminum mines once belonged to the US and therefore should be returned to the US. Then we will move the border 75 miles north.
>> to give them tariffs.
All your tariffs are belong to us.
“Any American who buys a can of beer, a soda, a car or a bike will suffer.”
I love the smell of BS in the morning.
They are probably acting as an illegal conduit for Chinese aluminum.
That’ll foil their plot
After all, no matter how reliable Canada is as an ally in general, every now and then, a Leftist government comes to power in Canada and insists that on one or more particular issues, the US must yield to Canadian interests -- or else. The fewer such points of vulnerability for the US, the better off we are even when Canada is on the other side of the table.
Yes, the English aluminum.....
This is really a Chinese plan of sending aluminum to Canada to become Canadian ‘aluminum’ to be shipped to the US.
“This is really a Chinese plan of sending aluminum to Canada to become Canadian ‘aluminum’ to be shipped to the US.”
Astonishingly, it is cheaper to cut trees in Canada and ship them to China for processing and THEN import them into the United States as finished goods. Although, whether the Three Gorges Dam collapses or not, China will be years recovering from flooding. This will remove China from much of the cheap labor market for a long, long time. Canada, with a population about 10% of the US, will probably cut wood and send it to new automated manufacturing plants in the US. (Providing building those plants doesn’t endanger a snail darter or a rare fungus.)
Good synopsis of the situation. We simply must remain independent in all things strategic.
Or we can become disarmed globalists and bow to the chicoms.
I’ve heard rumors of an a aluminum shortage... could this be part of democrat’s ‘October Surprise’?
So by your theory the tariff will increase domestic supply of aluminum...the reality is that aluminum end users, which includes defense industry, will be more likely to go out of business due to higher costs making them less competitive globally. This hurts US defense industry.
The strategic stockpiles needed in war are present in the US already - this tariff is bad.
Yup. Go to You Tube and see videos of these smug ass Canuks go on about their wonderful ‘’free health care’’ and what a bunch of Neanderthals we are because we don’t have ‘’free health care’’.
Mexico and Canada are the only two countries in the world who share a border with The United States and they hate us. I hate them as a well.
Because Chinese aluminum is being routed through Canada to evade import tariffs.
I suggest that we are stuck with a fundamental problem that is in the nature of a trilemma in which three essential competing objectives may with care be actively balanced but cannot be definitively reconciled. We want economic gains from free trade. We also want to protect jobs and industries from unfair competition by subsidized foreign companies. And we want the technological leadership required for advanced aerospace capabilities essential to our national security.
With that in mind, the decline of the American aluminum industry is cause for worry on national security grounds. For example, one of the highest military priorities today is the development of hypersonic missiles and aircraft. And for that purpose, new, high tech aluminum alloys are needed. I am not so sure that, even if we ask politely, China or Russia will provide them or explain how to make them. We must instead have an industrial and technological base that does that for us.
Well put. I would phrase it as a dilemma as opposed to a trilemma as I am not very interested in your second objective - protecting American jobs from “unfair” competition. I recognize that an industrial base with certain proficiencies and capabilities is needed to support us in wartime. I just think this specific tariff can hurt our aerospace industry more than hurt it. Canada will give us, come crunch time, all the aluminum we need, in addition to the domestic aluminum.
Moore's Law is a famous example of how microchip design and production engineering provide near miracles of innovation on a schedule. Yet it is not a law of nature but a rough approximation about the economic fruitfulness of such efforts -- efforts that require the employment of microchip designers and production engineers. In other words, such people must be educated, trained, and employed on a long term basis.
Just as advances in computer chips require people working on them for years at a time for computer makers, so also does the development and production of new alloys require a clutch of rare skills in metallurgy, refining, and production. Again, national security requires that the US have companies and employees with those skills working on new aluminum alloys and composites for the aerospace industry. And that requires a healthy domestic aluminum industry.
Like you, I am sure that almost all of the time Canada will sell us all the raw aluminum that we want, but will they also fund the research and development in new forms of aluminum needed to keep the US the world leader in aerospace? Call me doubtful. And why should we take the risk that Canada does not deliver the advances we need when we need them?
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