Posted on 09/14/2020 11:31:38 AM PDT by knighthawk
wny wrote:
Nothing. Will. Happen.
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....cynical cleanup on aisle four please...
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There is no mystery. They were erased to hide incriminating evidence, a criminal act.
Interesting from RedState:
In Garrity v. New Jersey, the Supreme Court held that police officers under investigation for misconduct could not be compelled to answer questions by investigators, and have their answers used against them in a later criminal prosecution if the officers were told they would be suspended or fired from their jobs if they asserted their Fifth Amendment right to remain silent.
The first thing a prosecution team must do when initiating this kind of investigation is to insulate the investigators and prosecutors from being exposed to material they should not see because of Garrity. This is done through the creation of a filter team one or more prosecutors and a few investigators whose job it is to go through everything amassed during the IGs investigation, and filter out any compelled statements that might violate Garrity.
IG Horowitzs two investigations involved interviews of dozens of federal agents and other federal employees. Many of them may have been given some form of Garrity warning similar to a Miranda warning. But its possible that some were warned that a failure to answer IG questions could lead to an adverse job action for refusing.
The judgment about whether the IG interview amounted to a compelled statement or not is a case-by-case determination. So the filter team has to go through every interview done by the IG for that purpose, and separate out any interviews which might be a problem.
The filter team then has to determine if any specific evidence collected in the IG investigation was produced solely as a result of information learned from a compelled statement. If such evidence is found, that evidence is fruit of the poisonous tree and is filtered out so the prosecution team never sees it.
This filter team has to work independently of the leader of the investigation. Durham cant know of any of the information filtered out because that would contaminate him as well.
Once the filter work is done, the filter team is disbanded because they cannot remain with the prosecution they possess information about compelled statements that the prosecution cannot know.
These are well established and well-understood practices and procedures in DOJ. Durham would have needed someone he knew and trusted, and someone who had done sensitive work like this in the past to lead that filter team. Their decisions on what to provide the prosecution team and what to hold back would be crucial in how the case developed.
If indictments are imminent, this is generally the point you would expect the filter team to depart.
I dont know if Dannehy was part of the filter team or led the filter team. But the 6-12 month time frame she was originally given would be consistent with that role. She fits the part of someone whom Durham would have called on to serve in that role, and the time of her departure is consistent with having served in such a capacity.
Another Graham premature ejaculation.
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If they did wipe the phones "with a cloth" then that's obstruction, destruction of government docs, etc.
If there are no indictments of people in the FBI and DoJ who violated the law in surveilling the Trump campaign, and among those ordering such lawbreaking, BEFORE the election, then we might as well just forget the whole thing. Have Bill Barr get on TV and announce that there is officially a two-tiered judicial system, that it’s a big club and you ain’t in it, and drop all of the pretenses.
“One small time scapegoat. As was accurately predicted.”
Send that one to Durham and Barr. Save them the expense of buying a clue.
“These are well established and well-understood practices and procedures in DOJ. Durham would have needed someone he knew and trusted, and someone who had done sensitive work like this in the past to lead that filter team. “
FBI should have plenty of experts in house on data recovery. DON’T USE THEM! Find out of house, non-FBI club, experts who can recover the data and still maintain the legal necessities.
Either indict some people or go away.
Heavens. You can just read the Fed Criminal code and list out the felonies of Strozk and the rest. None of this requires legal niceties. It’s as plain as day. Yet Barr can’t find a wrongdoer anywhere.
A friend of mine, who taught law in the LA area until he retired, says the same. He says he tried very hard to create an ethical and moral spirit in his students but over the years, they cared less and less. He says there is very little nobility in the practice of law anymore.
Oh, he can find them quite easily. He just doesn’t want to do so, at least not with any urgency...which goes to my point that NOT indicting people whom they know have done wrong, and doing so BEFORE the election, is its own form of election interference. Especially because of the nature of their collective crime - corruptly trying to use their power to up-end the electoral process and undermine the authority of a duly-elected President - this needs to be brought out BEFORE the election. We simply cannot afford to have the populace have little faith in our electoral process - the minute that even 1/3 of the people don’t trust the system is the minute when our Republic ceases to exist (though it may walk around like a zombie for a little while before collapsing).
AG Barr ought to understand in his bones that you do NOT want that situation in a nation with 500 million firearms, and do everything in his power to head that kind of a situation off ASAP. Doing so will ultimately be looked upon as an act as important as winning the Revolution - and this is a good deal easier. Failure to do so when it was so easy to do will be looked upon as being at least as traitorous as Benedict Arnold’s actions.
There is no investigation.
It’s obvious that he’s delaying til after November. But is it to avoid affecting the election or is it in hopes that Trump loses and he can let it all drop? My 60 years of political observation says the later, I’m afraid.
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Hope you are wrong and my worries you are right are unfounded.
I honestly believe this is one of the most important factors in this century's first decades, politically.
An enormous number of pro-Trump, patriotic Americans like myself have been impatiently waiting for the normal conventional system of justice to bring the evil ones to fair trial and punishment.
But since Whitewater and the Rose Law Firm, through Comey letting Hillary go, and felonious actions to stage a coup against a legally elected President, and much, much more.....have NOT resulted in painful consequences for the guilty, it means there is one last threadbare string holding America above violent civil war: Barr and Durham acting decisively BEFORE the November, 2020 elections. Either act within normal channels, or it is on your heads what happens, Barr and Durham. We didn't choose any of this.
See my other post on how they have to act or it's over.
I think the lack of Barr and Durham decisively acting against the criminals BEFORE November will trigger the right's version of George Floyd and systemic racism and bringing down statues----and worse later.
No action would mean the guilty Dems always skate and the conservatives go to prison if guilty. There is no reason then to wait patiently any longer.
A phony rigged 2020 election Dem victory after 7 weeks of re-counting mail-in ballots, followed by a century of them like Putin, Castro and Communist China "Dem Prez Stacey Abrams and VP Gretchen Whitmer re-elected with 92%. Tops her 2024 victory total" will be the future, with Deplorables gulags in flyover states.
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